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This is all horse @#(!. These clowns should form a single state and get along, but they can't because they're @#$%@#s. I don't feel sorry for either group.

The situation requires a dictator - just as Saddam Hussein's dictatorship was necessary.

Adept wrote:QUOTE (Adept @ Nov 28 2012, 09:30 AM) So... the exception to the above is that the Palestinians need to tolerate daily rocket attacks? The weapons rained down on their heads by the IDF are several orders of magnitude worse than what is shot at Israel. They are the targets of continued oppression and land theft, Gaza under a stranglehold and siege.

I agree with your conclusion though.

Well i'm glad you agree with my conclusion, but i dont think you used the same method i did to get there.

TakingArms wrote:QUOTE (TakingArms @ Nov 28 2012, 05:37 PM) This is all horse @#(!. These clowns should form a single state and get along, but they can't because they're @#$%@#s. I don't feel sorry for either group.

There is some truth to this. I remember reading Harvard business review article on management that tried to classify styles into a several categories and list their pros and cons along with new research data in behavioral psychology/economics etc. Unsurprisingly the "dictator" style of managing (diverse) people doesnt work well except during crisis mode. When things go to @#(! you need someone that stands up and says. Okay everyone, you go here and do this, you go there and do that, dont $#@!ing ask questions just do it.

Of course managing a country is different from a corporation, but not by that much. They both organize people and money to achieve a goal, so i think there are parallels here. We need an international intervention though, absolutely.

This thread is ridiculous.

germloucks wrote:QUOTE (germloucks @ Nov 28 2012, 11:42 PM) We need an international intervention though, absolutely.

There has been international intervention in the situation since it started. Hell, the whole situation is a product of international intervention.

situation benefits the US too much for it to be conveniently resolved

NightRychune wrote:QUOTE (NightRychune @ Nov 29 2012, 08:58 PM) situation benefits the US too much for it to be conveniently resolved

The same reason the "War on Drugs" will never end.

no comment on Palestine's recently "upgraded" statehood status?

Terran wrote:QUOTE (Terran @ Nov 30 2012, 10:14 AM) no comment on Palestine's recently "upgraded" statehood status?

The US issues silly statements that really undermine their credibility as any sort of mediator in the area. Israel threw a tantrum and said it will take revenge by expanding the settlements.... which is desperately funny as it means they'll keep doing the thing they have been doing for the last 20 years anyway.

"You bastard, you went to the police over our illegal activity! As a revenge we'll continue our illegal activity!"

Israel to build 3,000 settler homes after UN vote

Keep it up arseholes, and enjoy the sanctions to come. The time for this bull@#(! is rapidly running out.

Terran wrote:QUOTE (Terran @ Nov 30 2012, 03:14 AM) no comment on Palestine's recently "upgraded" statehood status?

Ok for this one I'll break cover.

Surprised, and feeling a little like watching the local kid from the wrong side of the tracks win the county science fair.