Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 4:27 am
I really like several of the ideas here. Again, I am strongly against nerfing ints' already pathetic scan range, as well as making them light hull. I did like the idea of lowering their fuel a bit, as that wouldn't make quite a humongous impact on them (they could still boost over a sector or two and defend but it would be a nice change nonetheless). Personally I think the main problem with ints is the following...
1. They chew up other ships too fast. This is NOT to say they shouldn't dominate in a dogfight vs any type of scout/fig/sf, but I feel they are TOO powerful as opposed to MORE powerful. Given that their main objective is to INTERCEPT other ships (be those bombers, TTs, cap ships, small ships, miners, whatever) I feel their role is fulfilled adequetly albeit too well.
2. They can GTFO, and GTFO, and GTFO. So many times it is worthless to dogfight ints as many are smart enough to just boost away. And if they have a 5 second head start on you, you'll never catch them. Rarely, a sf may get lucky with a retreating int and a hunter or a clever proxer may put some instadeath on his retreating aleph, but for the most part ints can outrun anything you throw at them short of a gangbang via turrets or LRMs. (Fresh abstract idea - some sort of hunter-tracking int-damaging LRM for figs?)
Perhaps we should rebalance the entire damage system sometime in the future to better encompass the balance that is the end objective. As a first step I urge you to consider changing bomber and int hull to different things. Not necessarily making ints light hull or anything so drastic, but I am completely in favor of lowering their survivability a little bit. As many have pointed out in various ways, it's silly that a SOLO int can take down a miner through a 2 or sometimes 3+ man defense and still (usually) preserve their KB.
I am just sick and tired of not being able to kill a 40 kb int. I realize that some people are exceptionally good whores and can get a 40 kb equally well with any type of ship, but the domination of the interceptor is too much. I believe that a fighter should die to an int unless utilizing all of its weaponry effectively (i.e. minepack, missiles, guns, possibly even ripping to a teleport in same sector and continuing the fight). I don't want figs or SF to MATCH ints in a fight, I just want ints to die more often, and make the game more team-based; as opposed to most ints NEVER dying in a furball or being able to whore 12 adv figs in 4 hvy ints with comparable skill levels.
The way I see it, they go too fast for too long, do too much damage, and have too many effective HP. Lowering any combination of these by any amount is a good step in my book. Adding effective weaponry to COUNTER these problems may be an effective step as well, but as McW has been trying to point out, making the game too complicated and getting away from the real fun of it (strategy, teamwork) is just a flop in the long run.
1. They chew up other ships too fast. This is NOT to say they shouldn't dominate in a dogfight vs any type of scout/fig/sf, but I feel they are TOO powerful as opposed to MORE powerful. Given that their main objective is to INTERCEPT other ships (be those bombers, TTs, cap ships, small ships, miners, whatever) I feel their role is fulfilled adequetly albeit too well.
2. They can GTFO, and GTFO, and GTFO. So many times it is worthless to dogfight ints as many are smart enough to just boost away. And if they have a 5 second head start on you, you'll never catch them. Rarely, a sf may get lucky with a retreating int and a hunter or a clever proxer may put some instadeath on his retreating aleph, but for the most part ints can outrun anything you throw at them short of a gangbang via turrets or LRMs. (Fresh abstract idea - some sort of hunter-tracking int-damaging LRM for figs?)
Perhaps we should rebalance the entire damage system sometime in the future to better encompass the balance that is the end objective. As a first step I urge you to consider changing bomber and int hull to different things. Not necessarily making ints light hull or anything so drastic, but I am completely in favor of lowering their survivability a little bit. As many have pointed out in various ways, it's silly that a SOLO int can take down a miner through a 2 or sometimes 3+ man defense and still (usually) preserve their KB.
I am just sick and tired of not being able to kill a 40 kb int. I realize that some people are exceptionally good whores and can get a 40 kb equally well with any type of ship, but the domination of the interceptor is too much. I believe that a fighter should die to an int unless utilizing all of its weaponry effectively (i.e. minepack, missiles, guns, possibly even ripping to a teleport in same sector and continuing the fight). I don't want figs or SF to MATCH ints in a fight, I just want ints to die more often, and make the game more team-based; as opposed to most ints NEVER dying in a furball or being able to whore 12 adv figs in 4 hvy ints with comparable skill levels.
The way I see it, they go too fast for too long, do too much damage, and have too many effective HP. Lowering any combination of these by any amount is a good step in my book. Adding effective weaponry to COUNTER these problems may be an effective step as well, but as McW has been trying to point out, making the game too complicated and getting away from the real fun of it (strategy, teamwork) is just a flop in the long run.