ryjamsan wrote:QUOTE (ryjamsan @ Sep 11 2012, 06:42 PM) And fu all if you don't like it I wouold have already nuked mecca
Yeah, because nuking a city and killing thousands is the geopolitical solution of choice. Educate yourself.
Let me be the voice of reason here. 9/11 should not be an excuse for blind jingoism. What we should take from this highly tragic event is that religious fundamentalism and a commitment to demonizing our foes is precisely the most idiotic option available for dealing with cultural problems.
Let's face it, 9/11 was the result of decades of heavy handed foreign intervention and $#@!ing with the Islamic World because after WW2 the West thought it could get away with doing whatever the $#@! it liked. At the same time, the people responsible for the attacks were without a doubt religious fundamentalists. The Muslims hijacking the planes, and the neo-conservative administration.
It is sickeningly hilarious that the American response to these attacks was to regress into religious fundamentalism. Suddenly, if you disagreed with the administration, you were a traitor. If you tried to offer counter opinions, you were a disgusting socialist dissenter. Suddenly, it was all "let's buy American Flag pins and be more American, because this is a Christian Nation and God will illuminate the right path!"
What happened? Trashcanistan and Iraq.
On 9/11, 2001, a bunch of whacked out Muslim extremists decided that the best way to achieve their goals was to fly planes into important American buildings. 11 years later, the US has pretty much completely $#@!ed over two sovereign nations, invited some of the world's worst human rights abusers (Russia and China) into a campaign against Islam and turned Islam, a religion extremely similar to Christianty, into some alien belief system that involves virgins and suicide bombing.
Since the previous decade, everyone's $#@!ed up. The US has become increasingly polarized and extremist, while the rest of the world has either become increasingly dissatisfied with US foreign policy to the extent that they will $#@! with this country just because or adopted US style "internal security measures" to both marginalize and persecute those of unwanted ethnic and religious backgrounds and to make sure the US knows that the country is firmly on its side in the "War on Terror".
My lesson to you today: religious fundamentalism sucks. It sucks hard. It is perhaps the single most detrimental factor in international politics today. 11 years since 9/11, the West and the Islamic world has not been able to compromise on the most critical issues - the Palestinian conflict and nuclear proliferation. 9/11 has done nothing except polarize and motivate the most extreme elements in both Western and Islamic societies.
If you want to remember something, remember this. Violence has begotten more violence. To solve the problem, we need to think of solutions that don't involve blowing the @#(! out of our enemies.