9/11 roll-call

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NightRychune wrote:QUOTE (NightRychune @ Sep 12 2012, 01:45 AM) however, you definitely should not ever try to make it a discussion

"the talk" will not go well, and nobody asked you to come in
^^ Seems to be accurate... *watches elzam have that discussion* :cool: *decides to join in a little*

Anyhow, can someone provide me with a definitive list of everything I'm supposed to never forget so I don't forget them. Trolololol lololol lololol
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ryjamsan wrote:QUOTE (ryjamsan @ Sep 11 2012, 06:42 PM) And fu all if you don't like it I wouold have already nuked mecca
Yeah, because nuking a city and killing thousands is the geopolitical solution of choice. Educate yourself.

Let me be the voice of reason here. 9/11 should not be an excuse for blind jingoism. What we should take from this highly tragic event is that religious fundamentalism and a commitment to demonizing our foes is precisely the most idiotic option available for dealing with cultural problems.

Let's face it, 9/11 was the result of decades of heavy handed foreign intervention and $#@!ing with the Islamic World because after WW2 the West thought it could get away with doing whatever the $#@! it liked. At the same time, the people responsible for the attacks were without a doubt religious fundamentalists. The Muslims hijacking the planes, and the neo-conservative administration.

It is sickeningly hilarious that the American response to these attacks was to regress into religious fundamentalism. Suddenly, if you disagreed with the administration, you were a traitor. If you tried to offer counter opinions, you were a disgusting socialist dissenter. Suddenly, it was all "let's buy American Flag pins and be more American, because this is a Christian Nation and God will illuminate the right path!"

What happened? Trashcanistan and Iraq.

On 9/11, 2001, a bunch of whacked out Muslim extremists decided that the best way to achieve their goals was to fly planes into important American buildings. 11 years later, the US has pretty much completely $#@!ed over two sovereign nations, invited some of the world's worst human rights abusers (Russia and China) into a campaign against Islam and turned Islam, a religion extremely similar to Christianty, into some alien belief system that involves virgins and suicide bombing.

Since the previous decade, everyone's $#@!ed up. The US has become increasingly polarized and extremist, while the rest of the world has either become increasingly dissatisfied with US foreign policy to the extent that they will $#@! with this country just because or adopted US style "internal security measures" to both marginalize and persecute those of unwanted ethnic and religious backgrounds and to make sure the US knows that the country is firmly on its side in the "War on Terror".

My lesson to you today: religious fundamentalism sucks. It sucks hard. It is perhaps the single most detrimental factor in international politics today. 11 years since 9/11, the West and the Islamic world has not been able to compromise on the most critical issues - the Palestinian conflict and nuclear proliferation. 9/11 has done nothing except polarize and motivate the most extreme elements in both Western and Islamic societies.

If you want to remember something, remember this. Violence has begotten more violence. To solve the problem, we need to think of solutions that don't involve blowing the @#(! out of our enemies.
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9/11 was a tragedy that shocked the USA and most of the "Western" world but in many ways... but let's not forget that the USA was happy to support such religious fundamentalists when it came to attacking others.

USA funded Osama Bin laden and these religious nuts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden

-Releasing all those USA made weapons to the religious fundamentalists to attack the Soviets was alight for the USA at the time, however could not have expected a 9/11 to never occur.
-The USA was happy with these religious fundamentalist groups when it came to dismembering Yugoslavia and the chaos that ensued.
-Being buddy buddy with Saddam when they were attacking Iran was alright and the USA turned a blind eye to the gassing of the Kurds which only became an issue when Bush wanted to Invade Iraq.

There are many cases of hypocrisy all around the world. No country is innocent of harm to civilians least of all the USA.

Bush blamed 9/11 terror attacked because they hate US freedom & liberty. GC: Couldn't b because of US foreign policy & support of dictators?
Gerald Celente

Clinton Condemns Pakistan Suicide Attack. GC: Does she want them 2 use drones, missiles, depleted uranium like civilized people, like US?
Gerald Celente

Yet a suicide bomber gets called a "Martyr" when it's against Syria.
"15.08 Keith Urbahn, Donald Rumsfeld's former chief-of-staff, says the West should be praising the suicide bomber who struck at the heart of Assad's regime."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...mbing-live.html


Still the original post here was to commemorate people personally affected by losing someone they know in 9/11 and all this political talk isn't probably the right place for it.
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Some good points made. We can move the discussion to this thread.
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ryjamsan wrote:QUOTE (ryjamsan @ Sep 11 2012, 09:42 PM) And fu all if you don't like it I wouold have already nuked mecca
And the religious zealot is back again, showing his hypocrisy, @#(! talking about "islam" fanatics when he is a christian fanatic himself. Go stick your head in the microwave and nuke yourself.
ryjamsan wrote:QUOTE (ryjamsan @ Sep 11 2012, 09:42 PM) And honor those who served and liberated 50million opress people and brought them liberty and freedom. Time will tell if they willl use it or decide they prefer sommething else
Yes. we brought them "liberty" and "freedom".
You know, liberty and freedom from life, and their infrastructure. If you truly believe that we went there to "free" the iraqi people, do the world a favor and go drown on your jet ski. Seriously- people with your level of ignorance and blind nationalism are the reason why Hitler was able to do what he did. Go $#@! yourself you stupid Nazi supporter religious fundamentalist hypocrite.
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ryjamsan wrote:QUOTE (ryjamsan @ Sep 12 2012, 03:42 AM) I remember and honor those who died that horrific day mort and thanks for reminding us. We should never forget
:salute: :salute: :salute:

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Please stay on topic.

The great 9/11 boat lift.
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raumvogel wrote:QUOTE (raumvogel @ Sep 12 2012, 09:39 PM) Please stay on topic.

The great 9/11 boat lift.

Well that was an interesting video. Thanks
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Hi.
Any loss of human life is tragic. 9/11 is the first tragedy I remember. It affected people I know. That's why I choose to specifically remember this day.
None of this changes if you bicker like schoolgirls about who's prettiest at the prom. You're all pretty. And all innocent human life lost is tragic.
So instead saying tons of "what about"s, reply to such a post in a more respectful manner.

So respect those who died on 9/11. And in Afghanistan. And in Japan. And in Germany. And in Rwanda. And in Mexico. And in Colorado. And everyone someone with a weapon feels they need to kill. And don't pollute a memorial to them with actions they are not guilty of.
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I'm not trying to be disrespectful to those who died, just putting things in perspective
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