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Who would have guessed? Guns do kill people it seems.

IN YOUR FACE CHARLTON HESTON.

wow..this guy used dumdum bullets. they are cut on top and designed to fragment on impact.
causing massive damage.

Now that we have wacked Osama we should retaliate with more democracy.

I don't remember when I'd last have cried because of newspaper artiecles. Propably never before.

Did you guys notice that unlike a school shooter, this guy surrendered immedeately, and always meant to be taken alive it seems. He want's to "explain his actions". Urgh

Somehow he found the time to write a 1500+ page manifesto, rambling about "them" vs "us". It also seems he carefully planned his attacks years ahead.

This might be said manifesto, translated by "someone" to English. Perhaps an psychological analyst can stomach it.

http://www.kevinislaughter.com/wp-content/...ndependence.pdf

minigun wrote:QUOTE (minigun @ Jul 25 2011, 03:21 AM) wow..this guy used dumdum bullets. they are cut on top and designed to fragment on impact.
causing massive damage.

Firstly, that guy was a *#$@

When I saw this I just shook my head is disbelief at the media again (I shouldnt have been surprised)
The media is so ignorant.

"Hey guys, I am a mass murderer, but I will stick with the Hague convention and only use FMJ bullets as it is more humane."

Give me a break.

And to use the term 'dum dum'...lol...thats a term straight from the Boer war (it actually came from India around 1889) when the Boers used to slice off the tip of a FMJ to the soft lead core and cut a cross into the head to ensure fragmentation.

They are called hollowpoints, soft points or the more recent product from Hornady, the VMax. Why he would want to customise his own (if Mini is indeed correct) makes no sense when any projectile manufacturer can give you a massive selection of projectiles that turn the targets bones and internal organs into jelly.

And do people seriously believe Law Enforcement and home defence dont use these projectiles for stopping power? Again....media, I hate you.

edited for repetition.

Stay classy, conservatives.

Edit: Though I suppose a fair response here would be "stay classy, girly, for bringing up more divisive political rhetoric in this discussion."

girlyboy wrote:QUOTE (girlyboy @ Jul 26 2011, 04:04 PM) Stay classy, conservatives.

Edit: Though I suppose a fair response here would be "stay classy, girly, for bringing up more divisive political rhetoric in this discussion."

To be honest I am quite against Youth Political Parties, kids are easily influenced and they become die-hard supporters far too easily, it's okay to be interested in politics but this is like converting kids, it's like evangelists without the religion although it is quite a good analogue as kids generally have similar political leanings as their parents if the parents are quite religious political.

Still though not really a good move for Beck to say it but I will admit I do have similar thoughts when I hear of any youth political party organisation.

I sort-of agree. It'd be interesting to see to what extent the political views people pick up at a young age stay with them throughout their lives. I think it'd be neat if kids with political interests had some sort of youth organization that would expose them to different political views, as opposed to those of just one party, and encouraged them to look at social issues from multiple perspectives. I'm sure things like that exist on a small scale here and there, but of course they wouldn't have the support mechanism of a political party behind them.

On the other hand, many kids are going to have strong political views anyway, and you may as well let them get involved in the process in one way or another.

As for Beck, as the article says, "politically-oriented camps are organized in several U.S. states by chapters of the "9/12 Project," which is an organization founded by Beck back in 2009."