Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:42 pm
I think we should just leave tp2 as it is.Jimen wrote:QUOTE (Jimen @ Apr 23 2010, 02:46 AM) Stuff
Free Allegiance Forums
Space battles since 2000
https://www.freeallegiance.org/forums/
Radical Balancing Ideas
Page 3 of 3
Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:03 am
I think we should play arround with the activation time a bit , or just leave it.Koln wrote:QUOTE (Koln @ Apr 24 2010, 01:42 AM) I think we should just leave tp2 as it is.
Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:33 am
Beefing up heavy bombers and AC3 sounds like an interesting idea.
Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 8:58 pm
Beefing up AC3 sounds like a horrible idea. The only time teams buy ac3 is when they are whoring in hvy scouts. Why would you want to make hvy scouts more powerful?Adept wrote:QUOTE (Adept @ Apr 24 2010, 07:33 AM) Beefing up heavy bombers and AC3 sounds like an interesting idea.
Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:01 pm
Before anyone inevitably suggests it, no we aren't removing mini-AC from hvy scouts.
That said, we can increase the full AC power without increasing mini-AC power (which would perk bombers but not hvy scouts). As I mentioned earlier though, I'd want to see this idea in action before I decided if AC needs a perk or not.
That said, we can increase the full AC power without increasing mini-AC power (which would perk bombers but not hvy scouts). As I mentioned earlier though, I'd want to see this idea in action before I decided if AC needs a perk or not.
Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:03 pm
Even if MiniAC becomes available with researching AC, you still have two separate weapons which stats you can change..._SRM_Nuke wrote:QUOTE (_SRM_Nuke @ Apr 24 2010, 10:58 PM) The only time teams buy ac3 is when they are whoring in hvy scouts. Why would you want to make hvy scouts more powerful?
Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:58 pm
My POV is the secret to balancing TP2/figbees/whatnot is not in the activation time of the tp2 or the energy but rather with the ripping times of the scouts, bombers and FBs. We could increase the necesity of teamwork if we forced a rather longer ripping time to bombers and even longer for FBs.
With this idea, more scouts would have to rip in to the TP2 to keep nanning it (and avoid the DF spike of only 2-3 defenders [the usual quota of guys that actually make it to the tp2 it time to spike it or kill the nan first]) while the rest of the ships rip in.
Pluses:
+ Requires more situational awareness from everyone on the team
+ Gives defenders more of a chance
+ Gives defenders something other than spiking the TP2 to do (in case, for instance we make ripping times for scouts SHORTER)
+ Leaves tp2 just as effective for alternative stuff such as galving, etc
Minuses:
- Doesnt solve the problem of scalability (it's a lot better than the current incarnation though... bigger games = more defenders to spike the tp2 or reach it)
- People will complain of having to fly scout to die... like usual.
I'm being fairly shortsighted with this idea, I'm sure, but you're more than welcome to critize/flame.
With this idea, more scouts would have to rip in to the TP2 to keep nanning it (and avoid the DF spike of only 2-3 defenders [the usual quota of guys that actually make it to the tp2 it time to spike it or kill the nan first]) while the rest of the ships rip in.
Pluses:
+ Requires more situational awareness from everyone on the team
+ Gives defenders more of a chance
+ Gives defenders something other than spiking the TP2 to do (in case, for instance we make ripping times for scouts SHORTER)
+ Leaves tp2 just as effective for alternative stuff such as galving, etc
Minuses:
- Doesnt solve the problem of scalability (it's a lot better than the current incarnation though... bigger games = more defenders to spike the tp2 or reach it)
- People will complain of having to fly scout to die... like usual.
I'm being fairly shortsighted with this idea, I'm sure, but you're more than welcome to critize/flame.
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:03 am
Fixed it for you, but sadly that is a good point._SRM_Nuke wrote:QUOTE (_SRM_Nuke @ Apr 24 2010, 11:58 PM) Why would you want to make Rix hvy scouts more powerful?
I doubt the other heavy scout turrets getting a small perk (like the 1.0 vs. med) would be an issue.In theory one could just keep AC as it is, and give the heavy bomber a 3rd AC turret. (Hey, the topic says radical ideas)
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:53 am
theres nothing different about rix hvy scouts than stupid @#(! like tac or stang rush. if your team $#@!s around you are going to lose against it.
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:26 am
The idea of nan3 has been raised before but been talked down by those in charge - I don't think a poll was done...? I'm still very much in favour of it and long for more "regular" bomb runs as Drizzo advocates.
I would agree with Koln that TF dual-nan bomb runs do succeed more often in my experience. If you've got mini3 though it will always be ridiculously hard to bomb against is though, since nans die in like 0.5 seconds to a good int pilot with mini3. Nan3 would still help though as more nans would have to be killed before concentrating fire on the bomber.
I would agree with Koln that TF dual-nan bomb runs do succeed more often in my experience. If you've got mini3 though it will always be ridiculously hard to bomb against is though, since nans die in like 0.5 seconds to a good int pilot with mini3. Nan3 would still help though as more nans would have to be killed before concentrating fire on the bomber.