Small ship hitboxes really need work

Adept · Post by **Adept** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:21 pm

I'm going to move this to Misc Dev now. No need to post the boring day to day stuff in the CC forum. I just wanted to give you guys a heads up about the problem (for us not-vet-enough-yet people anyway), and to say I'll attempt to get a ball rolling into fixing this.

There are good developments. Rain has remade the TF int so that it is still the same shape, but with good graphics and sane dimensions. Dreg is getting awesome new ships, and that will be a good time to make sure the new int hitbox is something sane.

I just wish we'd have taken this up when the R5 development was in it's latest burst. Maybe concave hitboxes could have been implemented for R5, so they wouldn't need to be built from separate parts.

TurkeyXIII · Post by **TurkeyXIII** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:35 pm

raingriffin wrote:QUOTE (raingriffin @ Oct 26 2009, 12:18 AM) GT bases cvh are being, and have been worked upon. And things look bright on that side so be happy turkey!

Weed: Some of the models will need to be rescaled to keep it balanced, among other things. They shouldn't really end up any harder to hit, just more predictable.

Vlymoxyd · Post by **Vlymoxyd** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:51 pm

I'd rather have bigger models with hitboxes that makes senses than the current situation for similar hitbox sizes.

Post by **Raveen** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:15 pm

Don't mind the criticism, some people want this game to stay exactly the same as it was in 2003. This is clearly something that needs fixing and I applaud the efforts of anyone willing to contribute time to do so.

madpeople · Post by **madpeople** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:41 pm

Weedman wrote:QUOTE (Weedman @ Oct 25 2009, 01:20 PM) leave it well enough alone

do you really want dreg ints to be harder to hit?

you will find the more complex you make the hitbox to match the model, the less fun this game becomes due to not scoring hits

learn to aim weedyboots

If making the hit boxes match the ships makes them harder to hit, then the ships will be made bigger to compensate (or maybe the hitboxes will be made a little fatter, but not so ridicuilos as they are now)

having accurate hitboxes can only make the game better

Weedman · Post by **Weedman** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:55 pm

serious?

madpeople · Post by **madpeople** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:15 pm

fixing hitboxes can only be a good thing, any balance disturbance can be fixed with the usual methods

Psychosis · Post by **Psychosis** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:30 pm

Vlymoxyd wrote:QUOTE (Vlymoxyd @ Oct 25 2009, 08:51 AM) I'd rather have bigger models with hitboxes that makes senses than the current situation for similar hitbox sizes.

/signed

KGJV · Post by **KGJV** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:23 pm

you could eventually change the code to use the bounding ellipsoid instead of actual detailed hitboxes (like it is when shield are on)...

This could be done by adding a new parameter, either global (a new game parameter) or per object (a new core value).

Camaro · Post by **Camaro** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:54 pm

I support re-modeling the hitboxes.

I refuse to fly dreg for this very reason.