Phoenix HTT Late game.

Kltplzyxm · Post by **Kltplzyxm** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:05 pm

I'd say Bios is far deadlier than nix.

The key to beating nix is that they need money. Lots of it. It was intended to eat up money. If you kill their miners early on and keep pressing them, they'll never get off the ground. Bios OTOH, can payday their wait to winning, which is why they're harder to beat.

So if some newb comm goes nix on you, just go Tac or EXP and kill his miners. Don't bother trying to beat nix at it's own game.

Dengaroth · Post by **Dengaroth** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:14 pm

Ozricosis wrote:QUOTE (Ozricosis @ Jan 25 2008, 09:40 PM) Hey Kid! Probes. You needed to probe the sectors outside of yours to see the HTT before it actually came into your sector.

Gee... how can someone play this game for 6 years and never once notice pulse probes?

gr4vity · Post by **gr4vity** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:21 pm

Mr. Kltplzyxm wrote:QUOTE (Mr. Kltplzyxm @ Jan 25 2008, 06:05 PM) I'd say Bios is far deadlier than nix.

Agreed.

Mr. Kltplzyxm wrote:QUOTE (Mr. Kltplzyxm @ Jan 25 2008, 06:05 PM) The key to beating nix is that they need money. Lots of it. It was intended to eat up money. If you kill their miners early on and keep pressing them, they'll never get off the ground. Bios OTOH, can payday their wait to winning, which is why they're harder to beat.

So if some newb comm goes [please insert random faction] on you, just go Tac or EXP and kill his miners. Don't bother trying to beat [please insert random faction] at it's own game.

Have a close look at Nix economy and stop commanding vs newbie coms MrK! /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

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IB_ · Post by **IB_** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:44 am

SouthPaw wrote:QUOTE (SouthPaw @ Jan 25 2008, 04:39 AM) Nothing in Allegiance is technically unstoppable

Stack.

Drizzo · Post by **Drizzo** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:47 am

Just have someone go start a CTF and crash the server.

Gandalf2 · Post by **Gandalf2** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:50 am

Stacks are beatable, depends how big it is, eg a top commander and a top team vs. a decent commander and a collection of vets & noobs... that's beatable (sometimes). MasterXchief vs 25 pilots.... that's NOT beatable /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />

IB_ · Post by **IB_** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:02 am

I said stack is unstoppable, not unbeatable.

Buyo · Post by **Buyo** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:19 am

gr4vity wrote:QUOTE (gr4vity @ Jan 25 2008, 04:50 PM) Smart observation. As a matter of fact the current Phoenix is very similar to Bios (not just in terms of base models /mrgreen.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="mrgreen.gif" />).

Okay maybe it is a tad cheesier (but only a little /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />). Unless you kill all their miners/cons and box them within the first 10-13 minutes they become almost impossible to beat. Once you failed to prevent them from mining like 3 sectors: they can get UppedGarr Â» GS Â» HvyScouts Â» a Techbase (lets say Sup with ac2) and of course the feared Transc. After that all they need is 2-3 additional miner loads and you will face vanguards + random stuff like AssltStarbases/Drones..

I would not worry about the Nix HTT. I would be more worried about the fact that it can rip to the AssltBase they pushed with joy 1k next to your IC AdvExp without IC being able to stop it.
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ps: If you want to kill AssltBases rush galv. If you want to kill a transc.. well unfortunatly that's only possible with xrm2/lrm.

Well, thats true and the reason why I never command phoenix, I think it's a better faction compared to the others, about the 10-13 minutes thing to do, thats really hard to do in PU games, where not all people listen.

In fact, I remember some games I've commanded against phoenix and we've killed like 3 of their miners early game, and they STILL managed to get uber stuff, more than we did even when we didn't lose miners, so yea, phoenix is lame in my opinion.

Evincar · Post by **Evincar** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:27 am

phoenix economy is extremely well balanced. It's the trans/bombers aspect that is harder to balance imo.

spideycw · Post by **spideycw** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:39 am

Mr. Kltplzyxm wrote:QUOTE (Mr. Kltplzyxm @ Jan 25 2008, 06:05 PM) The key to beating nix is that they need money. Lots of it. It was intended to eat up money.

Not to sure I agree with this