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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:06 pm
by Freeza
Go dreg, go sup, win.
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:22 pm
by Lykourgos
"as you're bound to a certain point (galving, attacking/defending cons, miner d, miner o, bomber d)."
In every single one of those cases you should be moving at least 50 m/s and more probably around 80 m/s. The possible exception is a planting con, (and according to your argument TF cons plant instantaneously anyway) and camping an aleph for bomber d. Since the timing on plasgen is difficult and the timing on prox is not, prox is superior for aleph-camping. This is an experiential argument and not a theoretical one.
Also, for the single most important thing in the game (miner o), prox is infinitely superior. If you are very good and very lucky you might get a plasgens full damage into a miner. Moderately good proxers can consistently prox a miner with ease-doing at least twice as much damage.
This is why in all of those exp games you'll still see Defi on TF with top kills- by stealing prox from the enemy.
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:27 pm
by juckto
@ Deng.
Rain was talking about tf towers being too good at sb defence when placed next to tf bases, not on alephs. And I thought R2 made the signature for every ship entering a sector 20%, not 100%.
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:28 pm
by Lykourgos
They rollbacked that, juck- it was the cause of that nasty hearum no seeum bomber bug.
Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:45 am
by Rand0m_Numb3r
so...
TF's weaknesses are really just awkward strengths and their strengths are, well, nuf said.
and people lack the skill to bomb rush them, yea... put that skill on the other side too = dead bomb rush.
so far i have gathered to previously known pieces of information
1) TF FTW
2) Stack FTW
Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:03 am
by CronoDroid
30% in speed over TF, with their 0.9 speed.
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:59 pm
by Rakinite
CronoDroid wrote:QUOTE (CronoDroid @ Sep 19 2006, 02:03 AM) 30% in speed over TF, with their 0.9 speed.
Actually, the Dreg are 33% faster than TF.
Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:43 pm
by Ozricosis
There's an easy solution to TFs late game power. Same thing with BIOS or even Giga...
Push an op to thier home and bomb them the second the op finishes building.
If not thier home, then right next to it.
Show me overpowered when half thier team is off killing one of your miners while you roll into thier home with a 5 nan bomber team?
GL HF GG Bye bye.
Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:45 pm
by CronoDroid
What does HF mean?
Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:00 pm
by TheBored
Probably "Have fun"
TB