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The idea behind perpetual growth is that populations used to perpetually expand.

But, of course, in first world economies this isn't always the case. So the economic model doesn't fit the social model.
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Camaro wrote:QUOTE (Camaro @ Aug 12 2011, 03:03 AM) The idea behind perpetual growth is that populations used to perpetually expand.

But, of course, in first world economies this isn't always the case. So the economic model doesn't fit the social model.
It's more than that. People should face the realities of a finite planet. It's quite as true, even more so in societies where the population is still expanding like there's no tomorrow.
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Adept wrote:QUOTE (Adept @ Aug 12 2011, 09:43 AM) It's more than that. People should face the realities of a finite planet. It's quite as true, even more so in societies where the population is still expanding like there's no tomorrow.
7 billion...and growing...
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Well, there's still room to grow. Africa's proven that it's incapable of governing itself, so we just invade that, appoint Balmung titular emperor, (with Agri the head of the Secret Police) and we should be good for another generation or two before we have to tap Antarctica.
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FreeBeer wrote:QUOTE (FreeBeer @ Aug 12 2011, 06:01 PM) Well, there's still room to grow. Africa's proven that it's incapable of governing itself, so we just invade that, appoint Balmung titular emperor, (with Agri the head of the Secret Police) and we should be good for another generation or two before we have to tap Antarctica.
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As well you should. :D
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Adept wrote:QUOTE (Adept @ Aug 12 2011, 09:43 AM) It's more than that. People should face the realities of a finite planet. It's quite as true, even more so in societies where the population is still expanding like there's no tomorrow.
What about the notion that advances in technology and science allow us to use the same finite resources in a more efficient manner, thereby allowing growth to continue? An example would be how ridiculously much more productive an acre of farmland is today versus 200 years ago.
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TakingArms wrote:QUOTE (TakingArms @ Aug 12 2011, 01:42 PM) What about the notion that advances in technology and science allow us to use the same finite resources in a more efficient manner, thereby allowing growth to continue? An example would be how ridiculously much more productive an acre of farmland is today versus 200 years ago.
It is more productive, but at the expense of draining the land and polluting waterways.
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