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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:14 am
by Mastametz
HSharp wrote:QUOTE (HSharp @ Mar 26 2012, 03:12 AM) For my balance would not be to nerf ints, it would be to nerf fig shields/hp and perk their dmg.
Would have to perk int hull along with it. Otherwise one volley of quickfires will take out any int. It already almost does.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:52 am
by Heyoka
I fail to see how perking figs solves the core issue of ints being "broken".
Not being snarky, just honestly curious as to how that works.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:05 am
by Adept
Heyoka wrote:QUOTE (Heyoka @ Mar 26 2012, 01:52 PM) I fail to see how perking figs solves the core issue of ints being "broken".
Broken how?
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:22 am
by Heyoka
I don't know how they're broken. I just read peoples complaints and come up with solutions. I don't care what happens to ints. I enjoy the game either way.
Plenty of people complain about ints though, and there is a solution that doesn't involve convoluted Chaos Theory Bull@#(!.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:41 am
by HSharp
Sheriff Metz wrote:QUOTE (Sheriff Metz @ Mar 26 2012, 11:14 AM) Would have to perk int hull along with it. Otherwise one volley of quickfires will take out any int. It already almost does.
Hmm I was supposed to also write that yes have to increase int hull by a fair bit and maybe tone down the dmg a bit.
Of course with my "solution" it's not really a balance of the sup/tac/exp triangle but a balance to encourage multi-teching and combined arms.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:05 pm
by Adept
HSharp wrote:QUOTE (HSharp @ Mar 26 2012, 02:41 PM) Hmm I was supposed to also write that yes have to increase int hull by a fair bit and maybe tone down the dmg a bit.
Of course with my "solution" it's not really a balance of the sup/tac/exp triangle but a balance to encourage multi-teching and combined arms.
I'd like to move the ship hull GA to exp, and move range GA somewhere else. That way the reduced booster range ints are more sturdy, but figs retain the gun range advantage of 600 vs. 400 meters. It would result in more flimsy figs as well. Where the range GA should go is a different thing. It could go to tac, and something from there could get swapped to sup, if upping fig gun range from the 600 seems like it's too much.
Multi teching is something I expect to see more since the shorter range ints need booster 2 to fly like pre cc_14 ones.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:20 pm
by Alien51
Adept wrote:QUOTE (Adept @ Mar 26 2012, 10:05 AM) I'd like to move the ship hull GA to exp, and move range GA somewhere else. That way the reduced booster range ints are more sturdy, but figs retain the gun range advantage of 600 vs. 400 meters. It would result in more flimsy figs as well. Where the range GA should go is a different thing. It could go to tac, and something from there could get swapped to sup, if upping fig gun range from the 600 seems like it's too much.
Multi teching is something I expect to see more since the shorter range ints need booster 2 to fly like pre cc_14 ones.
+1
Also just thought of something.
Give carrier drones shields to improve survivability. Then everything would even out fairly well. Exp can use EMP if they want to kill it fast.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:03 pm
by BillyBishop
Alien51 wrote:QUOTE (Alien51 @ Mar 26 2012, 02:20 PM) +1
Also just thought of something.
Give carrier drones shields to improve survivability. Then everything would even out fairly well. Exp can use EMP if they want to kill it fast.
You want to
improve carrier strength?! 
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:14 pm
by DasSmiter
1: Carrier drones are seeing an initial nerf (if you still wish to go full carrier tech that'll be available and probably of similar strength though it'll cost you)
2: I'm pretty sure Carriers can't use shields because they block docking (I think at least Ass Carriers do)
I'm watching the discussion btw, so please continue if you've got something to contribute. I'm curious to see what you guys come up with.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:27 pm
by HSharp
Adept wrote:QUOTE (Adept @ Mar 26 2012, 03:05 PM) Multi teching is something I expect to see more since the shorter range ints need booster 2 to fly like pre cc_14 ones.
I'm not truly advocating my "solution" to be implemented (whether I develop a core or not is undecided) but currently multi-teching in Allegiance is improving your primary techpath with the various GA's and tech or to end game with expensive sup or tac endgames.
What I am saying is multi-teching to provide combined arms, scouts finding the enemy, stealths harrasing and drawing/pushing them away/to a location, ints starting a furball, figs clearing it up. Not "I will get sup to make my ints faster/stronger".