No, when you log in and play, you're just one of the very few players left. It doesn't make any contribution whatsoever. Contributions contribute, playing does not.Adept wrote:QUOTE (Adept @ Oct 20 2010, 01:29 AM) ...When you log on to play, you are making a contribution.
I misguidedly declare: Allegiance is Dead
[15:25] <BBT_> oh, so da vinci's mona lisa isn't his work?
[15:25] <+fuh-zz> No, he simply put effort into it.
[15:25] <BBT_> are you really that retarded?
[15:25] <+fuh-zz> No, he simply put effort into it.
[15:25] <BBT_> are you really that retarded?
jbansk wrote:QUOTE (jbansk @ Oct 20 2010, 01:25 PM) No, when you log in and play, you're just one of the very few players left. It doesn't make any contribution whatsoever. Contributions contribute, playing does not.
I respectfully disagree.
By playing you are making the game more active, More activity tends to mean greater retention of new players etc.
In this way you are contributing to keeping the game alive.
While having average games larger than they currently are; will increase the desire of players to remain playing... is true, the manner of player retention by way of forcing yourself to play, to get them to play, is simply ridiculous.
To correct the problem the community must have a constant inflow of new players which equal or exceed the number of players leaving. Simple math. Now count how many obstacles there are in the way of achieving this.
To correct the problem the community must have a constant inflow of new players which equal or exceed the number of players leaving. Simple math. Now count how many obstacles there are in the way of achieving this.
[15:25] <BBT_> oh, so da vinci's mona lisa isn't his work?
[15:25] <+fuh-zz> No, he simply put effort into it.
[15:25] <BBT_> are you really that retarded?
[15:25] <+fuh-zz> No, he simply put effort into it.
[15:25] <BBT_> are you really that retarded?
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LANS wrote:QUOTE (LANS @ Oct 19 2010, 06:52 PM) Actually, depending on what version of IPB this board is, there may be a karma system that just isn't turned on. I know 1.3 had it, but I'm assuming this one is one of the 2.x series, and I have no experience with administrating IPS software newer than IPB 1.3.
Oh dear god no.
Every single forum I've seen that had this feature turned on (vBulletin has something like it and PHPBB has a mod) turned into a *complete* backstabbing cluster$#@!.
We have too much forum drama as it is, adding another meta-layer to it by allowing users to give each other reputation would increase the drama by an order of magnitude within minutes.
In addition to 60 second posting delay, I'd say post count sits at the minimum for poll voting and PM's and stalls out (no posts count in any forum) and instead of "Supporter" or "Supporter+" they get "Allegiance Detractor" as a bar under their avatar. Maybe a hard link to a rotating set of troll avatar pics too so they can all be easily identified? That last one might be a bit much.Tigereye wrote:QUOTE (Tigereye @ Oct 19 2010, 03:57 PM) On a completely unrelated note, I think we need a new userclass on these forums: Troll.
What "benefits" would our community's best trolls get? I think 60s post delay to start. What else?
Can you have a special separate badword filter that applies only to members of that group? We could replace common troll words like "LGB", "First Amendment", "is dead", "admins", "qf3", "management", "balanced", "voob", "n00b", "vet", "overpowered", "nazi", etc. (edit - How could I forget "Fixed it for you"/"fify"?!?)
Force-setting all text to font size 1, color white would be nice as well.
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Omnia Mutantur, Nihil Interit.???Bard wrote:QUOTE (Bard @ Oct 20 2010, 02:10 PM) We have too much forum drama as it is, adding another meta-layer to it by allowing users to give each other reputation would increase the drama by an order of magnitude within minutes.
We already have this, take for example Kramari's profile where he ordered his minions when he was SL of SPQR to get his rep to 5 stars! Luckily I am here to fight the good fight and have knocked him down a star by myself! Help me brave Allegites and bring Kramari down to a 3, or a 2 would be great and what he deserves!
The combination of our great marketing team and training team and the new installer will solve that problem.jbansk wrote:QUOTE (jbansk @ Oct 20 2010, 02:46 PM) While having average games larger than they currently are; will increase the desire of players to remain playing... is true, the manner of player retention by way of forcing yourself to play, to get them to play, is simply ridiculous.
To correct the problem the community must have a constant inflow of new players which equal or exceed the number of players leaving. Simple math. Now count how many obstacles there are in the way of achieving this.
I have a johnson photo in my profile since 2010.
I see a lot of bitching a noone coming up with any viable options.
I cant code C at all, so I spend my time helping out in the various projects Allegiance has going on. To list a few;
I run/design/host the AFS/CDT signup page.
I do graphical improvements to the game aswell as mods.
I help out in the ACSS forum(Though Im not much help other than being a guinea pig).
I designed the logo for the new Trac site and also completely rebuilt the CSS for the page, TE hurry the $#@! up and put it up!
I run the marketing forum with Sai.
I help out in the events zone, be it the graphical map for AWar's or the graphics for Rav's new ingenious idea.
I am an @Alleg.
I do various poster and leaflet throwouts for allegiance.
I also get us advertising spots for free on other websites.
I created, designed and run AGC, granted as a clan it is now dead. But in its hayday we had over 2000 members, a lot of which did at least try the game out, some have stayed. As it stands now, the site gets between 50 and 100 unique IP hits a day, thats just from the news posts as the site has become a defacto news site since it closed.
I get to play allegiance maybe once a week if I am lucky, I do get on more but I spend my time policing as its my duty.
I am always open to improving the game, I will always and have always applied whatever knowledge I have to improve it. I was even working on a vectorised image system for the lobby and UI so allegiance could run in any resolution with Imago before the @#(! hit the fan.
Anyway, Jbansk, I see you asking a lot of people what they do for the game. All I know you ever did was submit a mod or so and beta test the game. Where you contributions are indeed noted and well recieved I dont think you have the "right" to be calling out members on what they have done for the game.
Afterall people are here to play a game, not develop it or save it or whatever.
The game will survive because it has people new and old constantly helping out in ways that people will never see, notice or understand.
Allegiance good sire, is not dead.
I cant code C at all, so I spend my time helping out in the various projects Allegiance has going on. To list a few;
I run/design/host the AFS/CDT signup page.
I do graphical improvements to the game aswell as mods.
I help out in the ACSS forum(Though Im not much help other than being a guinea pig).
I designed the logo for the new Trac site and also completely rebuilt the CSS for the page, TE hurry the $#@! up and put it up!
I run the marketing forum with Sai.
I help out in the events zone, be it the graphical map for AWar's or the graphics for Rav's new ingenious idea.
I am an @Alleg.
I do various poster and leaflet throwouts for allegiance.
I also get us advertising spots for free on other websites.
I created, designed and run AGC, granted as a clan it is now dead. But in its hayday we had over 2000 members, a lot of which did at least try the game out, some have stayed. As it stands now, the site gets between 50 and 100 unique IP hits a day, thats just from the news posts as the site has become a defacto news site since it closed.
I get to play allegiance maybe once a week if I am lucky, I do get on more but I spend my time policing as its my duty.
I am always open to improving the game, I will always and have always applied whatever knowledge I have to improve it. I was even working on a vectorised image system for the lobby and UI so allegiance could run in any resolution with Imago before the @#(! hit the fan.
Anyway, Jbansk, I see you asking a lot of people what they do for the game. All I know you ever did was submit a mod or so and beta test the game. Where you contributions are indeed noted and well recieved I dont think you have the "right" to be calling out members on what they have done for the game.
Afterall people are here to play a game, not develop it or save it or whatever.
The game will survive because it has people new and old constantly helping out in ways that people will never see, notice or understand.
Allegiance good sire, is not dead.
I'm not "calling anyone out".
Your contribution is indeed a contribution as is many others who have done so much and received little or no recognition for their efforts. Our past or present contributions mean nothing in this post. This post is to declare the current state of Allegiance and challenge anyone to demonstrate otherwise.
Once the problem is identified to the satisfaction of those who can make change (you), then the methods to correct the problem can be established and executed. Otherwise it'll be business as usual and we can pretend those numbers on the servers are lies.
Your contribution is indeed a contribution as is many others who have done so much and received little or no recognition for their efforts. Our past or present contributions mean nothing in this post. This post is to declare the current state of Allegiance and challenge anyone to demonstrate otherwise.
Once the problem is identified to the satisfaction of those who can make change (you), then the methods to correct the problem can be established and executed. Otherwise it'll be business as usual and we can pretend those numbers on the servers are lies.
[15:25] <BBT_> oh, so da vinci's mona lisa isn't his work?
[15:25] <+fuh-zz> No, he simply put effort into it.
[15:25] <BBT_> are you really that retarded?
[15:25] <+fuh-zz> No, he simply put effort into it.
[15:25] <BBT_> are you really that retarded?
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Meh, a reputation system could work with some thought -- see StackOverflow. However, having it really work would be too much work. e.g. no rep generated from general purpose/fun/private forums, no negative rep, no free downvoting, link rep to secondary abilities like editing, lower rate limits when replying/searching,
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