Heavy Cloak...

Cadillac · Post by **Cadillac** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:37 am

Jimen wrote:QUOTE (Jimen @ Mar 11 2010, 05:27 AM) As opposed to all those other difficult endgame techs like

HTTing without a cloak?

Edit: The lt sig cloak idea could be pretty interesting if it uses a fair amount of energy. Bios HTTs would still retain their advantage.

Solamnus · Post by **Solamnus** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:44 am

lt cloak would be nice.

cashto · Post by **cashto** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:06 am

No. HTTs can be as cheesy as you want to make them with speed or sig perks alone. The question is -- how cheesy do you want them to be? Is it not enough for exp to have the cheapest endgame tech, AND the best ships, AND a yield perk, AND pulse probes, AND the unique ability to retain captured bases[*]? Bios HTTs are bad enough. Sheesh.

Anyways a well-executed forcecap is one of this game's most purest pleasures. Stealth really isn't exp's style in the first place.

[*] Yes, I said unique. NG bombers are a myth.

Broodwich · Post by **Broodwich** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:21 am

um
fbs and sbs are cheaper
jus sayin

Adept · Post by **Adept** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:50 am

spideycw wrote:QUOTE (spideycw @ Mar 11 2010, 04:49 AM) Heavy Cloak 1 moved to Starbase. Heavy Cloak 2 is now moved to Advanced Expansion.

Moving HC feels a bit odd. Missile Frigate is screwed over for one, and so is SBing for those who know to use heavy cloack.

I'd rather see the sig / speed / agility / mass (<--- not all at once hopefully) of the HTT tweaked. Wouldn't this just result on exp vs. exp hide and seek games where the HTTs are pulsed out anyway?

/edit forgot about SBs when typing this reply originally.

Post by **zombywoof** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:51 am

FBs aren't particularly effective without TP2 though. If you probe up even a little bit you'll see them coming a mile away and have time to get prox on the aleph. TP2 is expensive (22.5k for HTTs, 25k for TP2 figbees with ltboost picked up and not purchasing cruise booster and excluding bbrs).

I like the idea of a lt sig cloak for HTTs, something that lowers their sig by a little bit.

Though brood does bring up a very good point: why are HTTs so expensive? I think SRM EMP should be auto-researched and the price of Figbees raised to that of adv figs. Figbees now cost 30k (with TP2) and HTTs cost 17.5k

juckto · Post by **juckto** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:04 am

Paradigm2 wrote:QUOTE (Paradigm2 @ Mar 11 2010, 07:02 PM) Against belts, the hint my be the eyed set of figs boosting into an invisible void over and over again

Broodwich wrote:QUOTE (Broodwich @ Mar 11 2010, 07:13 PM) yeah seriously, as if 10 people boosting around towards your base isnt going to be a dead give away

juckto wrote:QUOTE (juckto @ Mar 11 2010, 05:44 PM) Ugh. HTTing is unbelievably easy with a hvy cloak. Put all your idiots and whores in ints, and get one decent pilot in the htt. gg.

Woo, belter htt being rammed up to 100mps that doesn't get eyed till it's within 1k of the base. 100mps + if the rammer uses it's boosters.

Mastametz · Post by **Mastametz** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:06 am

How about let's start by making TTs actually not completely worthless.
Make TTs function as Htts but make Htts HEAVY so they don't get rammed 1000000 times before dying, and actually have a chance at bouncing off a green door.

Archer14 · Post by **Archer14** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:01 pm

I agree with Masta, TT's are completly worthless. Give them a function like being able to cap bases, but the TT should have a small mass so they can be rammed away and make the HEAVY TT actually be heavy.

Cadillac · Post by **Cadillac** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:07 pm

Could give TT's a one missile rack ...