New auto ASGS message suggestion

Post by **Raveen** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:46 pm

factoid wrote:QUOTE (factoid @ Oct 30 2007, 12:10 PM) Yet this apperently keeps happening, I've heard several people mention that while your 'displayed' rank cannot change until you log out and back in, your actual rank (as tabulated by ASGS) can fluxuate, and since it's the actual rank that is used to determine bans, it's possible to rank up while on the newbie server, not realize it, and get banned.

Certainly when the autoban was first introduced it was based on looking at callsigns only. I am not aware of any change to using actual rank, but I may well have missed it /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

factoid · Post by **factoid** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:49 pm

I hear a lot of vocal people say things on either side. None of them have been Pook, BV, or TE.

Post by **BlackViper** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:30 pm

I have asked TE for an exact clarification. ASGS is his sandbox.

Post by **aem** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:15 pm

Well this shouldn't be a problem in R4 so not really worth worrying about at this point

Post by **Tigereye** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:42 pm

so if I'm understanding this thread correctly...

the suggestion is to fire the "WARNING" message 1 rank earlier than it currently is? Instead of informing them after they've crossed the threshold, warn them a rank before crossing?

--TE

Andon · Post by **Andon** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:50 pm

From what I can read, that's exactly it

juckto · Post by **juckto** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:49 am

QUOTE the suggestion is to fire the "WARNING" message 1 rank earlier than it currently is? Instead of informing them after they've crossed the threshold, warn them a rank before crossing?[/quote]
Yes.
Well, not "instead" but in addition. 6 -> 7 "Warning: you're about to cross the threshold". 7 -> 8 "Warning: You've crossed the threshold".

Although I, too, would like some clarification about the fluctuating ranks business. Because that is the main point of the warning - if the issue does not exist then there is no real need for this additional warning.

And why won't it be a problem in R4?

Post by **aem** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:58 am

Newbie servers are locked on the Novice Only skill setting and those settings are enforced so only those who should be allowed on the newbie server can even access the server. I believe you get the message "You are the wrong rank for this mission" if you try to join but are not a novice or have +, @Alleg, @Zone, etc in callsign.

edit: well on the other hand, if a novice crosses over into intermediate after a game on the newbie server, Allegiance will probably still see the player as a novice but ASGS might not. Might not matter until they log in next. Hmm...

Post by **BlackViper** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:22 pm

Small discussion going on in the ZL lounge. I am very seriously looking at lowering the rank to 4 for the newbie serves. Plus TE is working on a one rank to max message to be sent out to players. We have a few things happening in the next few days that have a lot of people tied up. This will get addressed.

jgbaxter · Post by **jgbaxter** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:37 pm

Good work. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

One problem with the newb ranks is that with this helo thing (that could use another polishing) new players seem to wizz right through the early ranks, really really fast.