2018 Election Prediction: I think the Republicans will keep the house and senate

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sambasti wrote:QUOTE (sambasti @ Nov 13 2018, 12:15 PM) When I came into this thread I thought p1 had hidden her gender from the community back then the same way I hid my age. Or that I was just really dense and missed it.


This is by far the bigger mind$#@!.
Option C: my gender identity is something I came to terms with after you bailed on the Allegiance community and so you just didn't notice ;)
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Bunnywabbit wrote:QUOTE (Bunnywabbit @ Nov 13 2018, 02:01 AM) yeah, I don't think that is a fair reading of her words.
She says : 'I would fight a {unintelligible - circular saw? } for him; if he invited me to a public hanging I would be in the front row'
By which she means, I would do anything for this guy, even accompany him to a public hanging, which presumably she would enjoy even less than fighting whatever it is she's saying she'll fight.
Weird choice of words, but it sounds like a local idiom referring to official executions, not necessarily lynchings (which are usually not public but invitation-only affairs). I would not pick this hill to die on if I were an American liberal.
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I think it's a perfectly fair reading of her words.
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phoenix1 wrote:QUOTE (phoenix1 @ Nov 13 2018, 07:40 PM) Option C: my gender identity is something I came to terms with after you bailed on the Allegiance community and so you just didn't notice ;)
Real shame, it can be such a lonely experience. I just did a forum search to try and figure out when this happened and we both got emotional about the same MrC post on the subject. :o

Must have been something in the water during CDT! /s :lol:
Terran wrote:QUOTE (Terran @ Nov 13 2018, 06:43 PM) how do you figure this?
I'll admit that this is a little bit hyperbole, it should have read "basically dead if I stay". I'm lucky enough to have a good career and EU citizenship, so I have the option of leaving. That said, the medical care that keeps me alive is based on the acceptance of my condition as a valid medical problem. If the US gov starts beating the drum that it isn't I don't expect insurance companies will go "well we don't have to but we're nice people soooo". California would probably do its best to protect me, but the federal government is a big important thing. I'd expect socially the situation would get a lot worse with time. The number of Elzams might increase. And it'd be stupid to think that defining me out of existence was just the start. The US didn't exactly say "black people are only 3/5 of a person, but no biggie let them do their thing".

The obvious thought then is: "well you wouldn't have care but just going back in the closet won't actually kill you", and the answer is "no it definitely will". I think one thing that's often missed by allies and @#$%@#s alike is just how $#@!ing devastating being trans can actually be. Close to 50% of trans people have tried to kill themselves. And those surveys only poll the survivors. It's a mental experience that's hard to describe, but this is the closest I've found (but still an incomplete oversimplification): Imagine you're at a fancy cocktail party and everyone is dress really nice, but you're there in dirty smelly old rags. You know the deep awkwardness and shame that you would feel? The discomfort in your own skin? Imagine that, but every second of every day of your life. The only proven way to alleviate the feeling is transitioning. When that stops being a viable option, it's fight or die for me.
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sambasti wrote:QUOTE (sambasti @ Nov 13 2018, 04:32 PM) Real shame, it can be such a lonely experience. I just did a forum search to try and figure out when this happened and we both got emotional about the same MrC post on the subject. :o

Must have been something in the water during CDT! /s :lol:
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QUOTE I'll admit that this is a little bit hyperbole, it should have read "basically dead if I stay". I'm lucky enough to have a good career and EU citizenship, so I have the option of leaving. That said, the medical care that keeps me alive is based on the acceptance of my condition as a valid medical problem. If the US gov starts beating the drum that it isn't I don't expect insurance companies will go "well we don't have to but we're nice people soooo". California would probably do its best to protect me, but the federal government is a big important thing. I'd expect socially the situation would get a lot worse with time. The number of Elzams might increase. And it'd be stupid to think that defining me out of existence was just the start. The US didn't exactly say "black people are only 3/5 of a person, but no biggie let them do their thing".[/quote]
So a couple of things about the US system that are probably super confusing to people who didn't grow up with it (because they're pretty confusing to people who DID grow up with it AND with parents/educational systems geared towards teaching it):

States generally have leeway in determining how things like insurance go in their state. For example, California determines exactly how much auto insurance you need to drive in California. This gets a little strange because Nevada can be like "you have to be covered for $9000" and California says "you have to be covered for $10000" and if you are pulled over in California with a Nevada license and have Nevada insurance, California has to kind of go "ok that's fine have fun." Recently this sort of thing has become a serious issue with Las Vegas putting some of its citizens on buses bound for SF where local laws allow for much better access to mental illness treatment.

Basically what's happening in the US right now is the US federal government is saying "you don't have to protect transfolk." There are some states (California being one of the best and most notable) which say "Actually, yes you do." This means that any medical insurance company which operates in CA has to, for its CA clients, obey CA laws. What will probably end up happening though is that if you seek treatment out of state (or are from out of state), the insurance company will go to the supremacy clause and be like "neener neener we don't have to pay." For non-surgical interventions this can be a hassle of course, but hormones aren't particularly expensive for insurance providers to provide so it probably won't happen there, and no one does the surgeries anyways.

Also, incredibly, most places I've been in California are getting socially better about LGBT issues. Granted, I live in weird socialist utopia bubbles that aren't 99% white people and the one Hispanic guy they let own a taqueria. But even my conservative family is getting on the hype train of not being @#$%@#s. Online communities too. The old-hat Let's Play crew from Something Awful contains at least two people who were superstars and recently came out as trans. PAMaster, Ragny, and I think there was another big one. I want to say Catsworth is some kind of not-cis. The resulting reaction has been incredibly overwhelmingly positive: sure some people like to @#(! on the trans LPers but for the most part the community's major voices are very supportive.

QUOTE The obvious thought then is: "well you wouldn't have care but just going back in the closet won't actually kill you", and the answer is "no it definitely will". I think one thing that's often missed by allies and @#$%@#s alike is just how $#@!ing devastating being trans can actually be. Close to 50% of trans people have tried to kill themselves. And those surveys only poll the survivors. It's a mental experience that's hard to describe, but this is the closest I've found (but still an incomplete oversimplification): Imagine you're at a fancy cocktail party and everyone is dress really nice, but you're there in dirty smelly old rags. You know the deep awkwardness and shame that you would feel? The discomfort in your own skin? Imagine that, but every second of every day of your life. The only proven way to alleviate the feeling is transitioning. When that stops being a viable option, it's fight or die for me.[/quote]
It is insanely difficult to describe the pervasive and endless dread that comes from being trans, and it's frankly incredible to me how many people choose to be @#$%@#s about it. Suicide is never particularly far from my mind as the easier option.
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Yeah, I think to further un-oversimplify my post: I expect CA to protect me to a large extent, but I also am very aware of the far-reaching power that a Republican government with a Republican Supreme Court will have once everyone gets tired of using immigrants as the only boogeyman. Supreme court mandated religious exemptions for birth control are only the start.
phoenix1 wrote:QUOTE (phoenix1 @ Nov 13 2018, 08:56 PM) It is insanely difficult to describe the pervasive and endless dread that comes from being trans, and it's frankly incredible to me how many people choose to be @#$%@#s about it. Suicide is never particularly far from my mind as the easier option.
My posts in this thread brought to you by a few friends and the gf that held me together when I was on the brink.
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sambasti wrote:QUOTE (sambasti @ Nov 13 2018, 04:32 PM) Must have been something in the water during CDT! /s :lol:
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QUOTE This means that any medical insurance company which operates in CA has to, for its CA clients, obey CA laws.[/quote]

Also why the GOP solution of "let's just allow companies to sell insurance across state lines" is such a fraud. They already can, if the plan is approved in each state it's offered in. But what they really mean is "force states to allow people to buy unapproved out-of-state plans", which is a massive erosion of state's rights, which you would imagine the GOP would be against.
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sambasti wrote:QUOTE (sambasti @ Nov 13 2018, 07:32 PM)
interesting. thanks for the perspective.
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Yeah, and much love and admiration to the both of you for having the courage to speak up.

P1 I had no idea you were also trans, I just took your hints as jokes, to be honest. I do apologize about that.
I'll try not to screw up the pronouns in future.
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Hints were pretty obvious, I just figured she wasn't ready to come out yet for whatever reason.

I'm glad you finally decided to make it Allegiance official. :-) I hope you're feeling better about yourself and it's a bit of weight off your shoulders now.

And you too Samba, always good to see an old @ACE squaddie around!
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Bunnywabbit wrote:QUOTE (Bunnywabbit @ Nov 15 2018, 03:05 AM) Yeah, and much love and admiration to the both of you for having the courage to speak up.

P1 I had no idea you were also trans, I just took your hints as jokes, to be honest. I do apologize about that.
I'll try not to screw up the pronouns in future.
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cashto wrote:QUOTE (cashto @ Nov 15 2018, 11:45 AM) Hints were pretty obvious, I just figured she wasn't ready to come out yet for whatever reason.

I'm glad you finally decided to make it Allegiance official. :-) I hope you're feeling better about yourself and it's a bit of weight off your shoulders now.
Well it's been Allegiance official for a while, you just don't play anymore ;)
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