Donald Trump

[zombywoof]

It's always jaw-dropping to me whenever someone, like globey did here, opens their mouth and just outright says "I am a terrible person with absolutely no humanity." There's nowhere to even start, except to point out that if you're actually *upset* that people in America have food and healthcare then there's no reasoning with you.

[Zwitter]

QUOTE (Globemaster_III @ Feb 21 2017, 09:12 AM) Raveen you are correct, President Trump know exactly what he is doing and as I say earlier (Trump 4 Trump)
we hire him to get illegal immigration out, get jobs back in the US and bring unite stated back to power.
the people pick him for that particular reason .
he is doing great but some people in here feel like he fail but I disagree, maybe I know more than some kids in here
people call him racist, Nazi and all other name, it doesn't matters, this man will walk away smiling
and people in the US will be on a diets. NO MORE FREE LUNCH, get to works, get in shape and bring heath care back to normal.

QUOTE (phoenix1 @ Feb 21 2017, 01:07 PM) It's always jaw-dropping to me whenever someone, like globey did here, opens their mouth and just outright says "I am a terrible person with absolutely no humanity." There's nowhere to even start, except to point out that if you're actually *upset* that people in America have food and healthcare then there's no reasoning with you.

It's jaw dropping the blatant ass strawmanning you're doing here. The guy said, "no more free lunch," because, let's be honest, I as a taxpayer am paying for someone else's "free lunch" (food stamps). You then say he's "upset that people in America have food," a blatant and teenager-like misrepresentation of what the guy just $#@!ing said to you. You're not entitled to food. No one is entitled to anything except that which is granted by the constitution. The constitution does not say "free food" anywhere in it AFAIK. Globey then references, you know, getting a $#@!ing JOB, like some form of labor instead of some idiot who posts blogs or w/e, gets donations on patreon, and still leeches from the government (who leeches from tax payers). What do you think it was like, before you were born, before your parents were born, and there was no easily accessible government handouts if you were a lazy bum? Do you think people were just starving to death in the streets, all the time? I'm actually really curious about what you think the world was like before redtape existed.

So, the healthcare thing, which was apart of your previous and blatant misrepresentation: Globey says "bring health care back to normal." You know what that means to someone like me? That means my family Dr. not having to sell his clinic to afford the mandatory ACA software which cost him 100k. Health care being 'normal' to me means it not being some mandatory tax on employers to provide for their employees, whether they want to or not, whether they can afford to or not. When an employer is required by law to provide health insurance to employees who work X hours a week, what do you think will happen? Cut hours, hire more guys. Wow, two birds with one stone, Obama! You gave everyone healthcare, and created 2x more jobs! I love that people get to work two 25 hour jobs to make the same amount as one 40 hour job. That's swell. Health care being 'normal' to me would be increased competition between insurance providers by letting them work across state lines, while not having to compete with the government, which does everything poorly while having infinite money because they can just take it from tax payers with or without consent and print more money as necessary. Swell! I love inflation and @#(!ty health care access, thanks Obama.

Okay so those are the two major things you went after and completely misrepresented Globey's position and shoved words into his mouth. You strawmanned the $#@! outta him and you totally bull@#(!ted and didn't say anything useful. Not even an attempt at an argument.


So, prior to that, you say, "I am a terrible person with absolutely no humanity." which, when taken out of context, makes it look like you're saying that yourself. Haha, I learned from the best! (CNN). That's you literally shoving words into that dude's mouth. It's a @#(!ty emotional appeal as well. It's not a point, it's not an argument. You're just saying, "I think you're wrong, so you're bad."

Here, I'ma try it on you:

I think you're wrong, so I think you're bad. I think you're a NAZI. I think you like COMMUNISM and that you like STALIN. Did you know that STALIN killed SIXTY MILLION of his own people? You are bad, just like STALIN.


Oh boy, did I win the argument yet, I donno cuz I'm like SoOOOOO emotional and SooOoOOoO progressive and whatever.




I'ma go back over it and reiterate and @#(!:

you're a big meanie head, I am not obligated to pay for your "FREE LUNCH," I want more jobs, I want more job opportunities, one day I want to own more land and construct more apartments, one day I want my factory to stop being a revolving door of idiot temp workers who are just putting in their 90 days so they can keep getting more government assistance. That @#(! drives up costs all around, not just in labor positions, because an employer and his business loses capital through loss of efficiency from having to train so many people while still having to pay them a mandatory minimum wage. Granted, certain professions allow under the table, consensual employer/employee relationship, such as me paying my grounds keeper by letting her stay rent free, have a cell phone on the family plan, or me cutting some other tenants rent for doing heavy lifting around the land and helping with construction. None of their earnings are taxed and I'm not obligated to buy them some @#(!ty government health insurance that I can't afford without selling half my property and throwing a bunch of people out on the street. This frees up some of my expenses to allow me to lease a new car every few years, because I have a tendency of ramming them into objects accidentally. Which is another thing, it's BS that car insurance is mandatory. I'd save a lot of money (and maybe be able to buy some water heaters or washer/dryers that don't explode every 6 months) if I didn't have to pay for something I hardly ever use.



What was I talkin about


OH YEAH

you're a big poopie head cuz u no leik globey (((

QUOTE (phoenix1 @ Feb 20 2017, 03:18 AM) You asked if Islam is dangerous, I said "no more than any other religion, and less than some."

I have some goddamn bad news for you.

hurrr bad news durrrrrrrrrrr

How many religious attacks do you hear about where the attacker said something like, oh, I donno, "CHRIST IS LORD" before blowing himself up, or hacking at people with an axe, or beheading someone in the middle of a street, or driving a truck through a crowded festival, or performing mass rape and sexual assault, or blowing themselves up, or whatever?

Why does somewhere like America have little in the way of dangerous, religious inspired attacks, while some place like the Middle East as a whole constantly has terrorism as a fact of life? Why does the Mayor of London say terrorism is just a part of urban life, while some place like Tokyo has no trouble with terrorism?

uh oh islamophobia

As we all know, terrorism has nOThInG!!! to do with islam, but also, if you insult islam, that might cause more terrorism, and as everyone who has a proper heart and mind understands, islam is a religion of peace, and women totally do not get killed for being raped, and honor killings are something totally not exclusive to islam

Like, I'm pretty sure, the other day, in another town in my state, a Protestant family totally killed their daughters for drinking and having premarital sex! Probably!!


No one will believe me because of reasons but I was a muslim for a while, so I can actually understand the "not all muslims," bleeding-heart liberal argument. Never went to a mosque and never read the quran, but the guy who kept speaking Farsi between his English, and for some reason wouldn't stop fasting unless I $#@!in peeled him fruit or brought him juice, declared me a muslim. That was a really interesting time. He was a nice guy, I'd say he was some kind of goofy 5th wave muslim, like he was WAY ahead of the curve when it comes to being all progressive and liberal and @#(! with his ideology. Really soft spoken.

There was another man I met, from Yemen, named Mussaffah, but I just called him Mufasa. He was pretty cool too. Personality wise, total opposite of Muhammad, the goofy 5th waver, but was about as lenient in his enforcement of sharia. Never got to pray with him but he was always a blast to talk to. Loved to drink and smoke. Really loud and boisterous, but never got physical unless someone laid hands on him first. Did get pretty mad when there was pork in his food, though. There was another guy from Iraq I think, but I don't remember his name. I prayed with him for a bit, that was kinda neat I guess. Their prayer is a really nice workout. Lotta squatting and stuff.

TOTALLY UNRELATED but Muhammed told me, and this is the funniest goddamn @#(! ever, that the reason muslims can't eat pork is because all pigs used to be jews. I'm dead serious, that's what this soft spoken lanky man told me. That was one of the most hilarious things I had ever heard. Something about it like, infringing on allah's will, or something, cuz it was like, denying the jews their punishment, or something. I didn't ask about current jews that are not pigs. I bet the answer to that question would've been just as comedic.

Anyway, my point with that rambling nonsense, is that I was a muslim for a while and it was pretty fun, but not really for me. So there's about 4 or 5 muslims I can point to and say "those guys are alright." But the rest I'm wary of because all I ever hear about people from that culture is insanity and violence. woops islamophobia


oh well I'm sure you'll tell me why I'm a big dumb doodoo head or w/e you think is a valid point.

QUOTE (peet @ Feb 21 2017, 01:06 PM) If you Americans want some cheap Euro goods, you might buy them quickly.

100% import tax on 90 selected articles (Dutch flowers, Italian Vespas, French Cheese...)

Trump proposal...

We don't need euro trash. America is abundant in natural resources. We'll make our own and make more money doing it after cutting a metric assload of red tape. Personally I don't ever import anything from Europe and all of the food I buy is made in America anyway, besides dumbass crap that comes from Asia and South America. Eurojunk should stay in Euroland.








Canada sucks too.

[Zwitter]

hey so I voted for Trump and I'ma do it again 4 years from now.

And when Barron is old enough to run, I'ma vote for him. It's pretty probable that he might, the kid is being groomed by a bunch of people with lots of wealth and worldly experience, and he's going to be a public figure for the rest of his life regardless.


This is of course, after the RUUS alliance is well established as the one true super power of the world, the Middle East stops existing as it is, and the UN, Merkel, and NATO to piss off. It'll be a pretty swell period of stability for about 20 years or so with globalism and socialism good and dead for a few centuries, nationalism and capitalism all over the place. Then Barron will be like "hey guys I'm Barron and I'm running for Barron of America, haha, I mean President." And he'll be like 8 feet tall and possess psychic powers to permanently sterilize any globalist/socialist/socjus/ancomm/antifa/ingsoc/whatever idiot within a 500 mile radius of himself, instantly. And he'll just run on a platform of "Make Earth Great Again," and he'll reference his old man, and then we'll build a space elevator to the moon to harvest minerals and He3 deposits, construct a giant dyson ring of solar satellites around the sun and capable of wirelessly transmitting the energy back to Earth for essentially unlimited energy, and then we'll blow up Pluto as a testing phase for the USRU Space Protection Initiative's first Space Mass Accelerator Cannon, and then we'll terraform Mars using some simple environmental bull@#(! involving algae and bacteria, and then we'll colonize Mars

AND THEN IN THE YEAR 2133, MARS WILL DECLARE INDEPENDENCE, AND WE'LL HAVE AN INTERPLANETARY CIVIL WAR, AND THEN THE MOON WILL DECLARE INDEPENDENCE IN 2137, AND IT'LL BE TOTALLY $#@!ING CRAZY AND RADICAL AND 1776 AS HELL


AND THEN!!!!!!!! IN 3052, THIS CRAZY @#(! STARTS HAPPENING: https://youtu.be/_4JvnQXv9UY?t=7s


AND THEN IN 3058 IT'S THE BATTLE OF TUKAYYID BABY, THE FINAL PUSH AT DINJU PASS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciDrXkVl29g


Trump is literally going to make battletech real and no one understands his grand plan

[badpazzword]

Life is too short to argue with a Fascist.in honour of your favour

Here's the tl:dr; for the rest of you,

- Your precious jobs are never coming back. 50% of all remaining jobs are also going to go away forever in the next 8-20 years. That's a conservative estimate. Good luck.
- All three terror attacks last week were carried out by white dudes. Maybe read something other than Breitbart for once in your life.
- I don't call someone I disagree with names. I call a spade a spade. I'm not a fear mongerer: I have nothing to gain from your fear. I want to be wrong.

[SumVeritas]

QUOTE (Zwitter @ Feb 21 2017, 03:10 PM)

TL;DR

[Zwitter]

Veritas: "I ain't got no argument"

Why, are you an islamaphobic fascist?????

QUOTE (badp @ Feb 21 2017, 02:33 PM) Life is too short to argue with a Fascist.in honour of your favour

Here's the tl:dr; for the rest of you,

- Your precious jobs are never coming back. 50% of all remaining jobs are also going to go away forever in the next 8-20 years. That's a conservative estimate. Good luck.
- All three terror attacks last week were carried out by white dudes. Maybe read something other than Breitbart for once in your life.
- I don't call someone I disagree with names. I call a spade a spade. I'm not a fear mongerer: I have nothing to gain from your fear. I want to be wrong.

Were they carried out by people who said, "CHRIST IS LORD?" That was the question. I wasn't specifically talking about race you big meanie ole racist, I was talking about religion. More specifically, a religion ingrained in a culture, or the other way around. The culture of the Middle East is Islam. Is Europe suffering from a surge of inner city terrorism done by Christians? Did a massive influx of Christians turn Sweden into the rape capital of Europe? Partially related: Do you consider the Nice and Cologne incidents to be terrorist attacks? Do you consider the riots in Stockholm to be an act of terror?

And yeah, jobs are coming back. Like I said, America has lots of abundant natural resources. The regulations and taxes that make corporations outsource or look for alternatives are going to be gone in a while. Dow Jones has been up and at em ever since Trump got elected. Before Trump was even elected he was keeping factories from shutting down and moving to Mexico, and more factories are being built. Americans will do those jobs, not illegals and not people overseas. There's no need to be outsourcing when you're not hampered by overzealous taxation and regulation.

"- I don't call someone I disagree with names. I call a spade a spade. I'm not a fear mongerer: I have nothing to gain from your fear. I want to be wrong."

okay that's a cool platitude and it doesn't mean anything because I was directing almost my entire post to someone who wasn't you.


Are you seriously calling me a fascist? Like, is that what you're doing? I'm a fascist, cuz, why? I want you to explain to me why I'm a fascist, in plain terms.

[badpazzword]

Stop reading Breitbart.

[SumVeritas]

QUOTE (Zwitter @ Feb 21 2017, 03:10 PM) Veritas: "I ain't got no argument"

Why, are you an islamaphobic fascist?????

¿?

[Zwitter]

QUOTE (badp @ Feb 21 2017, 03:21 PM) Stop reading Breitbart.

No argument. I don't even know if that's supposed to address everything I've said, one thing I've said, or some of the things I've said. You can google and youtube "sweden riots" or "stockholm riots" or something about a correlation between terrorism and muslim population density. Like I said, Tokyo has 0 terror attacks. No buildings get blown up, people don't throw rocks and fireworks at cops. But the mayor of London justifies terrorism in his city by saying it's because it's a city. You can also google "dow jones" or something.


SooOoOO, are you going to elaborate on your fascist remark? Does reading Breitbart make you a fascist? I don't read Breitbart. Is Breitbart fascist? What does fascist mean? Is fascism a trait inherent in certain individuals? Is Islam fascist? Is Christianity fascist? I'm trying to get some context here.


"durp dont read buttbart" well ok then

QUOTE (SumVeritas @ Feb 21 2017, 03:23 PM) I've got no argument, too. sadface.

[badpazzword]

You aren't worth my time. After all Trump's 21D chess will fix everything forever right? Keep praying.