a doubt about boot

Post by **zombywoof** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:28 am

raumvogel wrote:QUOTE (raumvogel @ Feb 12 2017, 03:28 PM) This is the wild west...you can be booted for any reason.Don't take it personal.

I haven't seen an unjustified boot in years. Even the last time I was booted, the person who did it was wrong to do so, but I could see from their perspective a reasonable justification for doing so.

azzwaldo wrote:QUOTE (azzwaldo @ Feb 13 2017, 03:44 PM) 'Twas an unusually bootalicious day on Sunday. Scoutman even got lobby banned at one point, which was a bit much. Having said that, tnere were some damned good games that day.

Scoutman got lobbybanned for being a douchebag to someone who was a) commanding and b) couldn't get the mute function to work.

ryujin · Post by **ryujin** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:50 pm

phoenix1 wrote:QUOTE (phoenix1 @ Feb 18 2017, 02:28 AM) I haven't seen an unjustified boot in years. Even the last time I was booted, the person who did it was wrong to do so, but I could see from their perspective a reasonable justification for doing so.

Scoutman got lobbybanned for being a douchebag to someone who was a) commanding and b) couldn't get the mute function to work.

there was a mutefail on my part for sure

askarel · Post by **askarel** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:12 pm

Senor NoirSol wrote:QUOTE (Senor NoirSol @ Feb 13 2017, 05:53 AM) when did this happen aska?

a few minutes before i posted this (Feb 12 2017, 08:26 PM)

askarel · Post by **askarel** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:03 pm

phoenix1 wrote:QUOTE (phoenix1 @ Feb 18 2017, 05:28 AM) I haven't seen an unjustified boot in years. Even the last time I was booted, the person who did it was wrong to do so, but I could see from their perspective a reasonable justification for doing so.

Scoutman got lobbybanned for being a douchebag to someone who was a) commanding and b) couldn't get the mute function to work.

Scoutman was botted for nothing, i guess he was waiting for an equal game too, ryu booted him for sitting? All know here that scoutman got serious net issues (i guess he got 4..5 kids sharing his net hehehehhe) He was just waiting for an equal game like me, and he gets angry for this (loobyban justified) ... but booted because he wanted a fair play? Because he wanted an equal (balanced) game? this should be wrong and passive of some punishment... not now, but from this moment ahead.
I saw it, when the game was balanced Ryu booted him out in less than a minute. Words of Ryu: " (i mean i guess his name is scoutman, I should have not booted him for that)" I SHOULD HAVE NOT BOOTED HIM FOR THAT... this is ryu's justification for boot scoutman? the things are getting out of control...

it was clearly a weird sunday, not only scoutman... castho too... earthship too... good pilots, getting booted for what? frustration coms? not good comunication? not able to fly with a mouse?
My point is, boot someone who dont have ability to fly is not cool, the guy is making his best at that moment, and there is a lot of variables to consider...
If you are a good com, give small orders to a bad pilot, like deprobing/probing, miner D, find miners, nans, turrets... manage the situation! Challenge yourself as comander, because on that sunday booting was becoming an easy solution.

SumVeritas · Post by **SumVeritas** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:50 pm

Hi aska, just to clarify, Ryu booted scoutman for sittin in base, which means he was taking a slot on the team, but not actually playing and then disregarding a comms direct order, you know as in:

Ryujin wrote:QUOTE (Ryujin @ Feb 14 2017, 09:38 PM) then when called out on it and asked for int in specific sector and he launched a scout in different sector...

Which is exactly what you are asking for a comm, to give especific orders (and then, in alleg greatest traditions, completely disregard said order

)

If you got booted cause of your mouse problems that's too bad, but a boot doesn't mean you can rejoin the game, from wiki:
QUOTE Even if you are booted you can rejoin the game. Only your callsign is booted - simply log out, log in with a different callsign[/quote](usefull link)
Then you can ask for an explanation from the, let's say offending comm, right away

Finally, can a mod move this to general or rants.

remember, the helpline forum is for technical support, see above "RULES OF THE HELPLINE"

Wasp · Post by **Wasp** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:19 pm

SumV, who gives a crap where he posts (helpline, rants or elsewhere)....there's only 5 people who visit this place anyway.

aska....you're PK. You know the score, stop yer whinin.

Boots a plenty, lobby bans are forbidden.

askarel · Post by **askarel** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:52 pm

SumVeritas wrote:QUOTE (SumVeritas @ Feb 18 2017, 02:50 PM) Hi aska, just to clarify, Ryu booted scoutman for sittin in base, which means he was taking a slot on the team, but not actually playing and then disregarding a comms direct order, you know as in:

Which is exactly what you are asking for a comm, to give especific orders (and then, in alleg greatest traditions, completely disregard said order )

If you got booted cause of your mouse problems that's too bad, but a boot doesn't mean you can rejoin the game, from wiki:
(usefull link)
Then you can ask for an explanation from the, let's say offending comm, right away

Finally, can a mod move this to general or rants.

remember, the helpline forum is for technical support, see above "RULES OF THE HELPLINE"

I talked with scoutman now, what he says sounds diferent.
"he was waiting 10v10 sitting, he also notified ryu about sitting until an equal game when he joined. when game get balanced he asked for a rp to launch a scout and pu pods, denied by ryu. The commander(ryu) said he would boot the pilots who were seated and started counting 10 seconds to do it.so... scoutman launched a scout to pu pods and got booted. Once in a lobby, scoutman asked ryu the reason of boot, no answer from ryu... so he started harasing ryu on private chat (lobbyban ok)."
This is the words of scoutman.
Im not defending a douchebag like scoutman, but I think there is a need to strengthen the rules of booting players, and punishment for wrong boots, justifications seems so vague... wich ends up encouraging wrong boots. Just this.
thanks for help.

raumvogel · Post by **raumvogel** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:08 pm

As long as there are so few commanders...nothing will be done.

ryujin · Post by **ryujin** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:37 am

raumvogel wrote:QUOTE (raumvogel @ Feb 18 2017, 06:08 PM) As long as there are so few commanders...nothing will be done.

not to mention players....

infergnome · Post by **infergnome** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:19 am

aksa wrote:QUOTE (aksa @ Mar 4 2017, 01:19 AM) Just for my clarification, can you get boot for not having the ability to fly with the mou

This is weird. but you can definitely do that without mous, lol