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Hey Spliff, I have a bonus for you and other mouse pilots of Allegiance.spliffy wrote:QUOTE (spliffy @ Jul 29 2014, 01:54 PM) Standard Beta is out Today![]()
UK price £50 I also payed £20 to reserve my name .
Saving up now for a decent flight stick .
Solarflux flew Alleg with a mouse, and took to the mouse & KB controls of Elite like a fish to water. Unless you specifically want to swap to joystick use (which is really good for Elite) I don't think you need to abandon the mouse. The change is in the fact that Elite is pitch & roll model, with yaw having about as much control authority as it does in airplanes. It's useful, but not what you use for quick turns.
I love my CH HOTAS setup, but it's expensive gear. The Frontier devs seem to be fans of the Saitek x52 Pro. And one of the best pilots I've seen uses a T-flight Hotas, which is cheap as anything, but apparently perfectly capable of getting the job done well.
If you go with just a stick, I can recommend the CH Pro Throttle as a companion piece. The analogue thumb joystick is utterly sweet for translational control (sidethrusting)
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<bp|> Maybe when I grow up I can be a troll like PsycH
<bp|> or an obsessive compulsive paladin of law like Adept
There is a pull over when coming down the mountain on US40 outside of Uniontown, Pa. where fresh drinkable water just flows out of the side of the mountain. Some people know to stop there because you can literally hold a jug underneath it and get the freshest (and safest...locals have tested it) water for free.But most people don't know that it is the source of the local bottled water that they buy in the stores. You could literally take 50 empty gallon jugs and for the cost of gas driving outside of town (maybe 2-5 miles) you'd have the same stuff.Duckwarrior wrote:QUOTE (Duckwarrior @ Jul 24 2014, 02:26 AM) People buy water in bottles that are packed into boxes, put on pallets, wrapped in plastic, loaded by forklifts and delivered in ships and trucks - from other countries.
They then drive to the supermarket and take them home and chill them in their fridge and wonder why the icecaps are melting.
/Yes, the company does run it through a filter,but we did that also and side be side they are both just as clear.

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agri has been enjoying the latest build
but this coming out of a jump close to a star thing has to stop
frontier did it better
agri would recommend going a step further and having the heliopause as the point at which one bumps out of an interstellar jump
also an option to have distances in AU rather than LS please
but this coming out of a jump close to a star thing has to stop
frontier did it better
agri would recommend going a step further and having the heliopause as the point at which one bumps out of an interstellar jump
also an option to have distances in AU rather than LS please
“Life,” the belgian agri observed, “is a long dialogue with imbeciles.’’
BBC Dambusters programme: "By the time they (617 Squadron) had dropped their bombs on the Eder Dam, they were flying at the height of that lamp-post"
BBC Dambusters programme: "By the time they (617 Squadron) had dropped their bombs on the Eder Dam, they were flying at the height of that lamp-post"
Targeting the star for jumping is excellent for the game logic, and I can see why they want us right close to it so the astronomical bonfire fills the screen. I think the annoyance will go away as the supercruise distance is tweaked (we'll be able to get much closer and skim fuel from the corona, remember).tsubaki_sanjuro wrote:QUOTE (tsubaki_sanjuro @ Aug 12 2014, 12:14 AM) agri has been enjoying the latest build
but this coming out of a jump close to a star thing has to stop
frontier did it better
agri would recommend going a step further and having the heliopause as the point at which one bumps out of an interstellar jump
also an option to have distances in AU rather than LS please
As for AU instead of ls, it would be traditional of course, but it would also break the convenience of having light speed and ls as the units. Now it's brilliantly easy to see how many seconds you have left to travel at your current speed.





<bp|> Maybe when I grow up I can be a troll like PsycH
<bp|> or an obsessive compulsive paladin of law like Adept
AU was not a fixed measurement, but a average of distance based on a calculation of a spinning object around a fixed shrinking object. It's "currently" pinned at: 149597870700 Meters. LS is a fixed constant that white haired people agree is significantly "more awesome" because it's the same for everypony, no matter what galaxy they come from. 149597870700 Meters? That ain't even a real number. Why not just measure it in linear acres? Or actual human feet?
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again this is agri's flawed and drink-corrupted memory talking, but star-skimming was always the refuelling choice of last resort in Frontier - it was always preferable (mainly because it was easier and less dangerous) to skim gas giants. the only time you ever did it was either if you were drunk, bored or were in one of those "remote telescope scans only" systems that didnt have a gas giant and you didnt have fuel enough to jump out.Adept wrote:QUOTE (Adept @ Aug 12 2014, 09:50 AM) Targeting the star for jumping is excellent for the game logic, and I can see why they want us right close to it so the astronomical bonfire fills the screen. I think the annoyance will go away as the supercruise distance is tweaked (we'll be able to get much closer and skim fuel from the corona, remember).
As for AU instead of ls, it would be traditional of course, but it would also break the convenience of having light speed and ls as the units. Now it's brilliantly easy to see how many seconds you have left to travel at your current speed.
it was also usually more aesthetically pleasing to jump into a system at the edge and then bimble sunwards towards the inhabited worlds, you would occasionally get light shows and whatnot. jumping into vicinity of the star usually means you only see it as you jump in, then you have your back to it for the rest of the time. it is a bit of a waste. it also made a bit more sense for pirates and assorted scum to be lurking at the edge of the system than right at its heart.
as for AU - it is a minor thing but it does fit in with the rest of the game, especially the time and calendar system (which are both earth-based). agri preferred it to LS.
“Life,” the belgian agri observed, “is a long dialogue with imbeciles.’’
BBC Dambusters programme: "By the time they (617 Squadron) had dropped their bombs on the Eder Dam, they were flying at the height of that lamp-post"
BBC Dambusters programme: "By the time they (617 Squadron) had dropped their bombs on the Eder Dam, they were flying at the height of that lamp-post"
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I don't suppose any of you have gotten a chance to try it with an Oculus Rift. I read a few short reports from people using it with mouse/kb setups, but I suspect a Rift with the flight stick, throttle, and pedals should be pretty damn amazing.

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