HSharp wrote:QUOTE (HSharp @ Jan 21 2013, 08:53 PM) I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who worries about burgers coming into my house at night, I get worried about those looks the Big Mac's give me.
Mayor McCheese is gonna break into your house.
A little more about guns
Mayor McCheese is gonna break into your house.
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No one wants to have cancer. Certain people want to have their guns. If no one wanted guns in the country, and someone offered to take them all away, then yes. Your metaphor would fit because no one (or at least, I'd assume no one) wants cancer. But certain people want to hold onto their cancer (guns) so if a doctor offered to take it away, you can bet they'd be up in arms about it.lexaal wrote:QUOTE (lexaal @ Jan 21 2013, 06:53 PM) If a doctor would say:
"I don't cure cancer because in 80% of all cases I will not be successful."
or
"I don't cure cancer because you are going to die anyway, but from a different reason."
then he would follow the "argumentation" I don't understand in this thread and in the gun discussion in general. The whole gun argumentation is a continous row of strawman arguments.
The only possible alternative solution instead of banning guns is mandatory wearing of kevlar burkas ;-)
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A hero is not one who never falls, but one who gets up again and again, NEVER losing sight of one's dream!
Cancer here is gun VIOLENCE I think, not the guns themselves.Elzam V. Branstein wrote:QUOTE (Elzam V. Branstein @ Jan 24 2013, 09:52 AM) No one wants to have cancer. Certain people want to have their guns. If no one wanted guns in the country, and someone offered to take them all away, then yes. Your metaphor would fit because no one (or at least, I'd assume no one) wants cancer. But certain people want to hold onto their cancer (guns) so if a doctor offered to take it away, you can bet they'd be up in arms about it.
Terran wrote:QUOTE (Terran @ Jan 20 2011, 03:56 PM) i'm like adept
Broodwich wrote:QUOTE (Broodwich @ Jun 6 2010, 10:19 PM) if you spent as much time in game as trollin sf might not be dead
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What the heck?!
http://www.wfaa.com/news/national/189548811.html
I thought more training and having everyone around you armed was the answer.
I may have to re-evaluate my position.
http://www.wfaa.com/news/national/189548811.html
I thought more training and having everyone around you armed was the answer.
I may have to re-evaluate my position.
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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable. John F. Kennedy.
He was at the range with an another ex-soldier suffering from PTSD, trying to help him return to civilian life. It seems on the surface silly to do it at the gun range but I didn't serve in combat... maybe you gents know better, I sure don't. Maybe we should handle things more like the English?
Alright now that I got in my clever retort on poor defenseless Duckie
lets try to put this one person dying stuff in perspective.
I sincerely don't give a $#@! if you let me own a gun or not. Let's take Camaro, who may or may not own a single fire arm, but let's project a little and say he does given his extensive knowledge on the subject. Seemingly stable enough gent who owns them for whatever reasons he has for owning them. So for every PTSD soldier who makes for a sad newspaper story there are many more Camaros quietly living their lives while having a secure locker full of one or a bunch of them. On the flip side for every my gun saved my life story there are sad stories of majorettes who died over mistaken identity or the color of a hanky.
In a pragmatic sense removing the guns from civilians is going to be long and drawn out with just as many sad stories. It will also be political suicide as each time some poor slob gets killed who used to be able to carry a weapon, the opponent will use it to sink their career. Awful lot to ask of a slimy pos pols to take a stand that is potential political suicide huh
I understand the smug tones and judgemental quality of most of the posts that make up these kinds of threads. When the shoe is on the other foot I wear it too no matter how oftern I wish it wasn't the case. After all prejudice and denial of our own shortcomings are a universal quality shared by almost everyone everywhere all the time. It is only when you feel like an outsider looking in do you see things differently then the insiders looking out. It tends to draw up sides and next thing you know your old friends are you new *meh*
MrChaos
edit: removed the fib it just isnt my style
Alright now that I got in my clever retort on poor defenseless Duckie
lets try to put this one person dying stuff in perspective. I sincerely don't give a $#@! if you let me own a gun or not. Let's take Camaro, who may or may not own a single fire arm, but let's project a little and say he does given his extensive knowledge on the subject. Seemingly stable enough gent who owns them for whatever reasons he has for owning them. So for every PTSD soldier who makes for a sad newspaper story there are many more Camaros quietly living their lives while having a secure locker full of one or a bunch of them. On the flip side for every my gun saved my life story there are sad stories of majorettes who died over mistaken identity or the color of a hanky.
In a pragmatic sense removing the guns from civilians is going to be long and drawn out with just as many sad stories. It will also be political suicide as each time some poor slob gets killed who used to be able to carry a weapon, the opponent will use it to sink their career. Awful lot to ask of a slimy pos pols to take a stand that is potential political suicide huh
I understand the smug tones and judgemental quality of most of the posts that make up these kinds of threads. When the shoe is on the other foot I wear it too no matter how oftern I wish it wasn't the case. After all prejudice and denial of our own shortcomings are a universal quality shared by almost everyone everywhere all the time. It is only when you feel like an outsider looking in do you see things differently then the insiders looking out. It tends to draw up sides and next thing you know your old friends are you new *meh*
MrChaos
edit: removed the fib it just isnt my style
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Ssssh
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MrC, if I lived in America I'd have guns.
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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable. John F. Kennedy.
