Why we REALLY need playerbase growth

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watchout
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Post by watchout »

Mastametz wrote:QUOTE (Mastametz @ Feb 27 2011, 11:29 AM) "I got booted for sucking" threads, and if you try to encroach further on a commander's booting rights, there will be nobody left to command this game at all.
The boot command is a bit better as I noticed it now sends the person to NOAT so they can join the other team as of Aug 2011. I say it be removed altogether, it is very rare that a player does something worthy of a boot, most of the time its just a bad tempered commander using rules to justify their evil boot actions.

Trust me alleg.net will go on happily without the boot ability. People are so scared to play because they see people being booted and then finally they get their undeserved boot then people go "why play this?"

Remove boot command please to save our game.

Thanks! (gets off the soapbox)
Ps. each time I get the boot I usually dont play for a week or months, why bother if they use boot as a scare tactic...no body likes hurt feelings, its a game.
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Post by Makida »

I do not think the community will respond positively to this suggestion.

:popcorn:
GoodWill
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Post by GoodWill »

Doing something about booting is a great idea if you want to increase player-base.

I know, I know:
"Justified ... can just log in again ... serious gaming needs rule enforcement ... justified ... not every dickhead should ... justified ... whatever whatever"

Attracting new players is about what THEY perceive and not about what longterm veterans may know is "actually best" for the game.

It will take a new player a while to figure out all he should know about booting before not taking it to heart so much that he might as well quit right away.
Apparently it took me over 60 games (leaderboard says so) to get this issue settled for myself.

Fact is:

Usually a boot is perceived as a unkind act and will most likely be interpreted as being unwanted.

This is especially true for players that do not yet understand the underlying game-mechanics and communital implications of such a boot.
These players are typically Newbies who are the sole souce of playerbase growth.
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DonKarnage
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Post by DonKarnage »

watchout wrote:QUOTE (watchout @ Aug 24 2011, 08:51 AM) The boot command is a bit better as I noticed it now sends the person to NOAT so they can join the other team as of Aug 2011. I say it be removed altogether, it is very rare that a player does something worthy of a boot, most of the time its just a bad tempered commander using rules to justify their evil boot actions.

Trust me alleg.net will go on happily without the boot ability. People are so scared to play because they see people being booted and then finally they get their undeserved boot then people go "why play this?"

Remove boot command please to save our game.

Thanks! (gets off the soapbox)
Ps. each time I get the boot I usually dont play for a week or months, why bother if they use boot as a scare tactic...no body likes hurt feelings, its a game.
Instead of quitting the game for a long period of time, just think about what you did to make a commander angry, and try your best not to do it again.

I haven't been booted for months, and the last time I did kinda deserved it. (Then again... that miner would have been long dead by the time I got a nan to it, so I used an interceptor)
If the booting bothers you, don't fly for the commanders who aren't afraid to use it.
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Post by KGJV »

girlyboy wrote:QUOTE (girlyboy @ Aug 24 2011, 05:59 PM) I do not think the community will respond positively to this suggestion.

:popcorn:
'the community' who is that ? who respond positively or not ?

I only see bullies that still play and prevent newbies and vets who don't play anymore to enjoy games , and to prevent any drastic changes to happen.

I proposed a simple plan 4 years ago to bring back fun and more players to the game:

- remove the hiders, 1 callsign/per account
- change the way the 'boot' system work so it's less powerful and adapted to a single callsign system.
- 'grace period' for newbies until they reach rank 5 : they give no points when podded, they get special escape pods that are 3x faster, they keep their KB when killed. (or even no escape pod at all so they don't waste game time floating in pods).
- change core timing and prices so games are quicker (faster pace).
- revamp the tutorial missions and the intro site.
- revamp the points system (not the ranking system just points earned per game, lower emphasis on '#kills').
- permaban the dozen bullies who plague this game

you may like it or not but it's a plan. you may want part of it or all of it. but at least it's a plan.
Current management has no plan. nada.

The bullies have won, enjoy playing with yourselves for the few months left.
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Post by jbansk »

ROFL

You guys are so fukin slow. The point of no return is far behind us now. Have you even played a game this last year?...it's a joke.......It's over, deal with it.
[15:25] <BBT_> oh, so da vinci's mona lisa isn't his work?
[15:25] <+fuh-zz> No, he simply put effort into it.
[15:25] <BBT_> are you really that retarded?
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Post by pkk »

watchout wrote:QUOTE (watchout @ Aug 24 2011, 05:51 PM) The boot command is a bit better as I noticed it now sends the person to NOAT so they can join the other team as of Aug 2011.
I think "defection" was on during that game. ;)
The Escapist (Justin Emerson) @ Dec 21 2010, 02:33 PM:
The history of open-source Allegiance is paved with the bodies of dead code branches, forum flame wars, and personal vendettas. But a community remains because people still love the game.
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Post by Dome »

watchout wrote:QUOTE (watchout @ Aug 24 2011, 08:51 AM) The boot command is a bit better as I noticed it now sends the person to NOAT so they can join the other team as of Aug 2011. I say it be removed altogether, it is very rare that a player does something worthy of a boot, most of the time its just a bad tempered commander using rules to justify their evil boot actions.

Trust me alleg.net will go on happily without the boot ability. People are so scared to play because they see people being booted and then finally they get their undeserved boot then people go "why play this?"

Remove boot command please to save our game.

Thanks! (gets off the soapbox)
Ps. each time I get the boot I usually dont play for a week or months, why bother if they use boot as a scare tactic...no body likes hurt feelings, its a game.
Yesterday I booted you cause you didn't read or respond to chat and then you started issuing contradictory orders to my team. Read the chat and play the game as a team or be booted.
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Post by Elzam_ »

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