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ONE POSSIBLE CURE FOR LAG SPIKES
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assassinsat
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it is a kind of mobile broadband i think. its using HSDPA/WCDMA tech i think. 3.6 Gbps using a usb modem.fuzzylunkin1 wrote:QUOTE (fuzzylunkin1 @ Feb 7 2011, 01:57 PM) Are you sure you don't have mobile broadband of some kind?
The only worse I've seen here is satellite and with that I pretty much had to get used to lagging. I think I got decent at it after a while but it was a bitch.
QUOTE If you *are* on DSL, I suspect that the last item is what's happening. That ~*might*~ mean that they sold you service at, near, or beyond "maximum acceptable range" and are thus screwing you. If it's *not* DSL, you need to call your ISP and get a tech out to check the lines.[/quote]
is what i mentioned above DSL? I have no idea. anyway thats the best home package I can get around here. Everyone gets the same thing regardless of the ISP. So no use asking about checkin the lines. anything else I can do?
QUOTE The problem is you play from Sri Lanka, just like I play from Australia and pings to American and Euro servers basically suck for us. If we had some Asian kind of server maybe things would be ok, but the playerbase is not big enough and never will be to allow for one. If it didn't work 3 years ago, it won't now.[/quote]
Yea i guess we are going extinct. We try to stand up but the blows are getting harder.
QUOTE Planet for me was very playable as Texas aint as far from San Jose/LAX from where I connect from but for you it's bad either way. Seems like you get routed via NYC. Turkey on the other hand seems to have great pings but it depends on his location in Melb and the route his ISP takes I guess. He seems more of an exception to the rule. Sadly not much can be done to improve things given your distance from the server in my opinion.[/quote]
I guess there's no way to change this?
QUOTE Maybe you can take the mantle with like minded players? if you can find them.[/quote]
I sure hope so but its not me. Thanks for the reply TC.
That's sort of the problem, as GSM/UMTS based connections tend to have ridiculous latencies (in terms of gaming of course). This also explains the very high pings you get on the very first hops in your trace.assassinsat wrote:QUOTE (assassinsat @ Feb 7 2011, 03:53 PM) it is a kind of mobile broadband i think. its using HSDPA/WCDMA tech i think. 3.6 Gbps using a usb modem.
OKAY
Your all some what right...... I tried to dumb this down..... because I already I suspected the issue was mtu . I do a lot of network troubleshooting. When your on a solid network and one or two clients are having an issue. It is generally a client side setting. Unfortunatley, I know way to much about how packets work are formed and make it through routers.
assassinsat
I can not hope to give you a networking class over a static forum.
I will try and simplify this down for you and everyone else who does not have a network back ground .
THINK OF THIS LIKE SENDING PACKAGES BACK AND FORTH IN BOXES FROM YOUR HOUSE TO THE SERVERS IN TEXAS (or Gerogia)
In order to move the package... You first have to box it up. But if your box is one size and the amount of data you have to send is 1000 time bigger than the box... you have to split the stuff your moving into a 1000 smaller boxes. or you could change your box size .
YOUR BOX SIZE IS YOUR MTU...... hold this thought we will talk more about why MTU is important...
However in networking when you split a box... you have to leave space in each box for the packagining. In Computer networking that packinging is the address and specfic instructions for your package to get to the next place it needs to go to head from your house to the next transfer point.
Routers are like FEDERAL EXPRESS TERMINALS. They know from your packinging iinfrmation where the next terminal is the package has to go to.
Now.... Think of a HOP is the distance between each of those terminals. IF your first stop for your first package was out your door to your own mailbox.. and that took 2 hours. That would be something seems very strange. It should never take you two hours to walk one package to your own mailbox.
Now.... here is something that happens in networking like in real life. Imagine as you went to take this box to the MAIL box... Your mom says to you.... the box is too big to fit in the mailbox ... but you ignore her and walk out there 10 times and keep trying to put it in there but cant get it in no matter how many times you try.
Even though it only took you 15 sec to walk out each time if you did it 100 times until you resized the box to fit... your packages would take forever to just get out the door.
BACK TO MTU...... MTU known as MAX TRANSMISSION UNTI..... IT IS YOUR BOX SIZE(which should include the packaging>....
Normally.... your box size is set because your system is smart like your mom because it asks all the Federal Express stops from your house to the server how big of a box you can use to send all your pacakages. That should work and your Box should make it all the way thru with out being sent back to your house to be resized.
BUT WAIT...... what about the packaging ... that goes in each box... some Fedex house forgot to tell you that there station requires a bit more packinging. As your package makes it alll the way to that stop... the package gets sent back and your like WTF ... I ask what you wanted you told me this was the right size.. Damn you take it back..
Your system tries to fight with the Terminal... or router and the Terminal say's what package ? Screw you we lost that... snet it back this time the way we want it... and maybe we will process it right if you send it to us in a size we can take. (In networking this is called black hole packets, or an out of sequence packets, and normally a retansmission request is sent back to your machine for a package with the same data in it. The server will eventually put all the packages togther in the correct sequence. Just like when all your packages arrive at you taget location some one will unpack all the boxes through them away and putt all your stuff back togther.
So .... what have we learned.
by looking at your tracert I believe you have client configuration issue with your MTU or some other client config issue that is very fixable. You might have a local networking issue possibly. From What I can tell from the tracert the first two hops are your private network at home. I am not sure if your interet connection sharing off another PC ... or you have a home router.
However having said all this I still beleive if you set your MTU (BOX) smaller you will clear up your issue for a lot of things.
RUN TCPOPTIMIZER. TEST ONE OF THE US SITES AND LET IT FIX YOUR MTU.
CLASS IS DISSMISSED....
Your all some what right...... I tried to dumb this down..... because I already I suspected the issue was mtu . I do a lot of network troubleshooting. When your on a solid network and one or two clients are having an issue. It is generally a client side setting. Unfortunatley, I know way to much about how packets work are formed and make it through routers.
assassinsat
I can not hope to give you a networking class over a static forum.
I will try and simplify this down for you and everyone else who does not have a network back ground .
THINK OF THIS LIKE SENDING PACKAGES BACK AND FORTH IN BOXES FROM YOUR HOUSE TO THE SERVERS IN TEXAS (or Gerogia)
In order to move the package... You first have to box it up. But if your box is one size and the amount of data you have to send is 1000 time bigger than the box... you have to split the stuff your moving into a 1000 smaller boxes. or you could change your box size .
YOUR BOX SIZE IS YOUR MTU...... hold this thought we will talk more about why MTU is important...
However in networking when you split a box... you have to leave space in each box for the packagining. In Computer networking that packinging is the address and specfic instructions for your package to get to the next place it needs to go to head from your house to the next transfer point.
Routers are like FEDERAL EXPRESS TERMINALS. They know from your packinging iinfrmation where the next terminal is the package has to go to.
Now.... Think of a HOP is the distance between each of those terminals. IF your first stop for your first package was out your door to your own mailbox.. and that took 2 hours. That would be something seems very strange. It should never take you two hours to walk one package to your own mailbox.
Now.... here is something that happens in networking like in real life. Imagine as you went to take this box to the MAIL box... Your mom says to you.... the box is too big to fit in the mailbox ... but you ignore her and walk out there 10 times and keep trying to put it in there but cant get it in no matter how many times you try.
Even though it only took you 15 sec to walk out each time if you did it 100 times until you resized the box to fit... your packages would take forever to just get out the door.
BACK TO MTU...... MTU known as MAX TRANSMISSION UNTI..... IT IS YOUR BOX SIZE(which should include the packaging>....
Normally.... your box size is set because your system is smart like your mom because it asks all the Federal Express stops from your house to the server how big of a box you can use to send all your pacakages. That should work and your Box should make it all the way thru with out being sent back to your house to be resized.
BUT WAIT...... what about the packaging ... that goes in each box... some Fedex house forgot to tell you that there station requires a bit more packinging. As your package makes it alll the way to that stop... the package gets sent back and your like WTF ... I ask what you wanted you told me this was the right size.. Damn you take it back..
Your system tries to fight with the Terminal... or router and the Terminal say's what package ? Screw you we lost that... snet it back this time the way we want it... and maybe we will process it right if you send it to us in a size we can take. (In networking this is called black hole packets, or an out of sequence packets, and normally a retansmission request is sent back to your machine for a package with the same data in it. The server will eventually put all the packages togther in the correct sequence. Just like when all your packages arrive at you taget location some one will unpack all the boxes through them away and putt all your stuff back togther.
So .... what have we learned.
by looking at your tracert I believe you have client configuration issue with your MTU or some other client config issue that is very fixable. You might have a local networking issue possibly. From What I can tell from the tracert the first two hops are your private network at home. I am not sure if your interet connection sharing off another PC ... or you have a home router.
However having said all this I still beleive if you set your MTU (BOX) smaller you will clear up your issue for a lot of things.
RUN TCPOPTIMIZER. TEST ONE OF THE US SITES AND LET IT FIX YOUR MTU.
CLASS IS DISSMISSED....
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assassinsat
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thanks a lot for that cable. Like i said i have a 3G huawei usb stick. Model is E1550. Isn't there any way to change the Mtu for it? I can't change it using optimizer. And if I can, what kind of value should it be? Once again thanks for trying to help.Cable wrote:QUOTE (Cable @ Feb 8 2011, 09:39 AM) OKAY
Your all some what right...... I tried to dumb this down..... because I already I suspected the issue was mtu . I do a lot of network troubleshooting. When your on a solid network and one or two clients are having an issue. It is generally a client side setting. Unfortunatley, I know way to much about how packets work are formed and make it through routers.
assassinsat
I can not hope to give you a networking class over a static forum.
I will try and simplify this down for you and everyone else who does not have a network back ground .
THINK OF THIS LIKE SENDING PACKAGES BACK AND FORTH IN BOXES FROM YOUR HOUSE TO THE SERVERS IN TEXAS (or Gerogia)
In order to move the package... You first have to box it up. But if your box is one size and the amount of data you have to send is 1000 time bigger than the box... you have to split the stuff your moving into a 1000 smaller boxes. or you could change your box size .
YOUR BOX SIZE IS YOUR MTU...... hold this thought we will talk more about why MTU is important...
However in networking when you split a box... you have to leave space in each box for the packagining. In Computer networking that packinging is the address and specfic instructions for your package to get to the next place it needs to go to head from your house to the next transfer point.
Routers are like FEDERAL EXPRESS TERMINALS. They know from your packinging iinfrmation where the next terminal is the package has to go to.
Now.... Think of a HOP is the distance between each of those terminals. IF your first stop for your first package was out your door to your own mailbox.. and that took 2 hours. That would be something seems very strange. It should never take you two hours to walk one package to your own mailbox.
Now.... here is something that happens in networking like in real life. Imagine as you went to take this box to the MAIL box... Your mom says to you.... the box is too big to fit in the mailbox ... but you ignore her and walk out there 10 times and keep trying to put it in there but cant get it in no matter how many times you try.
Even though it only took you 15 sec to walk out each time if you did it 100 times until you resized the box to fit... your packages would take forever to just get out the door.
BACK TO MTU...... MTU known as MAX TRANSMISSION UNTI..... IT IS YOUR BOX SIZE(which should include the packaging>....
Normally.... your box size is set because your system is smart like your mom because it asks all the Federal Express stops from your house to the server how big of a box you can use to send all your pacakages. That should work and your Box should make it all the way thru with out being sent back to your house to be resized.
BUT WAIT...... what about the packaging ... that goes in each box... some Fedex house forgot to tell you that there station requires a bit more packinging. As your package makes it alll the way to that stop... the package gets sent back and your like WTF ... I ask what you wanted you told me this was the right size.. Damn you take it back..
Your system tries to fight with the Terminal... or router and the Terminal say's what package ? Screw you we lost that... snet it back this time the way we want it... and maybe we will process it right if you send it to us in a size we can take. (In networking this is called black hole packets, or an out of sequence packets, and normally a retansmission request is sent back to your machine for a package with the same data in it. The server will eventually put all the packages togther in the correct sequence. Just like when all your packages arrive at you taget location some one will unpack all the boxes through them away and putt all your stuff back togther.
So .... what have we learned.
by looking at your tracert I believe you have client configuration issue with your MTU or some other client config issue that is very fixable. You might have a local networking issue possibly. From What I can tell from the tracert the first two hops are your private network at home. I am not sure if your interet connection sharing off another PC ... or you have a home router.
However having said all this I still beleive if you set your MTU (BOX) smaller you will clear up your issue for a lot of things.
RUN TCPOPTIMIZER. TEST ONE OF THE US SITES AND LET IT FIX YOUR MTU.
CLASS IS DISSMISSED....