A Terrible Realization

DonKarnage · Post by **DonKarnage** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:53 pm

so what are stealths good for then? energy management is a pain in the ass with those things.

FIZ · Post by **FIZ** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:54 pm

Enh figs can bring some hurt to an unprobed miner, but they really start to suffer if they have to pass through more than 1 sector.

SFs can kinda just cruise to wherever and have a field day against run of the mill pug miner/con d (usually very little if any).

Vortrog · Post by **Vortrog** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:59 pm

DonKarnage wrote:QUOTE (DonKarnage @ Nov 11 2010, 05:53 AM) so what are stealths good for then? energy management is a pain in the ass with those things

Spoken like a true imperial tie fighter pilot

Icky · Post by **Icky** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:22 pm

As I have posted about a bazillion times...

Figs = good all around
Ints = best ship to ship
SFs = best drone killers

Why is this so $#@!ing amazing to discover?

Yes, figs are good at killing drones. If you have an SF at the same level of tech, you can solo a miner in about 10s (with nans) and then be uneyed again. The biggest strengths of the SF over the fig are: stealth (obvs) - the element of surprise. D doesn't have time to form. With a fig it is 100% obvious to all parties involved which miner you are going for. With an SF you know once the hunters drop the shields....and Damage per Sec - the SF can empty a rack of lrms, drive by with util2 to finish it off in the time that the fig gets within range.

TurkeyXIII · Post by **TurkeyXIII** » Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:46 am

Congratulations Vanaka, you've learned the basics of flying a fig. Now you just need to learn the basics of flying a stealth and you'll have an informed opinion.

Deep40000 · Post by **Deep40000** » Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:42 am

Perhaps he should finish cadet II

cashto · Post by **cashto** » Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:13 am

Once in range, a fighter doesn't take much longer to kill a miner than a stealth fighter. The issue is that an experienced comm can see a fighter rush coming, and can reasonably mine distant sectors with only minimal d. The comm can also hide the miner in-sector much easier against short-scan-range fighters than with longer scan range sfs.

Cable · Post by **Cable** » Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:57 am

cashto wrote:QUOTE (cashto @ Nov 10 2010, 09:13 PM) Once in range, a fighter doesn't take much longer to kill a miner than a stealth fighter. The issue is that an experienced comm can see a fighter rush coming, and can reasonably mine distant sectors with only minimal d. The comm can also hide the miner in-sector much easier against short-scan-range fighters than with longer scan range sfs.

And so the real value of probes in a Squad game is revealed... not to reveal bombers coming but to alert the com thats ints are trying to sneak up on your miners..

Cashto....

The problem you have...... is some of us know you too well...... If your in game...... your sneaking up on the miners ... 24 /7 and eyeing them for your ints....

Thats why you must die first...

omegahero · Post by **omegahero** » Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:34 am

spideysenses tingle, miners rip and taunts on allchat subsequently follow

_xJammer_ · Post by **_xJammer_** » Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:34 am

Try to fly belter sfs, with a bit of luck you will realize just how much better they are than dreg fighters at killing miners.

@Fever. Unless one of these ripping miners kisses a rock in the process of ripping