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neotoxin · Post by **neotoxin** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:08 pm

People who stack are Nazis. End of discussion.

Camaro · Post by **Camaro** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:10 pm

Mmhmm, i still miss the days when StormStrike and me would have retarded games on RPS with all the newbies.

Let not forget that every newbie and their brother LOVED phoenix as well, even if they got their asses kicked.

Alleg was simply more fun back then, even if it was less balanced.

Makida · Post by **Makida** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:03 pm

Kumquat wrote:QUOTE (Kumquat @ Jul 25 2010, 03:38 AM) SOMEONE HAVING FUN IS MORE LIKELY TO COME BACK THAN SOMEONE NOT HAVING FUN?!? HOLY $#@!ING @#(! BATMAN STOP THE $#@!ING PRESSES!

Well, it does seem to be news for some people in this thread.

Adept · Post by **Adept** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:05 am

girlyboy wrote:QUOTE (girlyboy @ Jul 26 2010, 07:03 PM) Well, it does seem to be news for some people in this thread.

QFT

SaiSoma · Post by **SaiSoma** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:16 pm

SaiSoma wrote:QUOTE (SaiSoma @ Jul 24 2010, 02:05 PM) Ya, I know, but I don't have the time to put anything more complex together and the majority of (7)s are noobs, so it'll give us a decent idea.

In a few months, I'll have more time and can work out a more detailed tracking approach.

Oh . and I can do <5 as well . .. .just to see what the diff is.

Now tracking:

http://allegiance.fragfest.net/stats/

Main page tracks total online and 15 and up.
New player graph tracks 7 and under and 5 and under.

Adaven · Post by **Adaven** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:03 am

I know our retention sucks, but I'd be interested to know how other free games fair, to see how far off we really are.

The fact is that there are horrible, awful, games that have many many more players than Allegiance, and it is a shame really.

Cadillac · Post by **Cadillac** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:06 am

FreeBeer wrote:QUOTE (FreeBeer @ Jul 25 2010, 04:10 AM) Real women "do" the army, too. That's where little grunts come from.

Real women do tennis. That's where the best grunts come from.

Elzam_ · Post by **Elzam_** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:11 am

Cookie Monster wrote:QUOTE (Cookie Monster @ Jul 27 2010, 08:06 PM) Real women do tennis. That's where the best grunts come from.

+1

UncleBuck · Post by **UncleBuck** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:55 am

Jimen wrote:QUOTE (Jimen @ Jul 25 2010, 04:00 PM) Also, noob retention isn't the issue behind the shrinking playerbase, because noob retention has been poor for more or less the entire life of FAO. In fact, given all the things y'all have been doing to improve the newbie experience over the last couple of years, I wouldn't be surprised if newbie retention is the highest it's been in five years! Why is the playerbase shrinking? Because you morons are driving off all the goddamn vets!

+1

Cadillac · Post by **Cadillac** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:06 am

I disagree. Most games are short lived and have transient player bases, either that or they continually release new content and updates to keep the masses occupied.

Allegiance benefits from neither of these and relies on 2 big things: the gameplay and the community.

Most vets leave either because they get bored of the game or just move on in life and silently fade into inactivity. I would suspect that very few vets are actually driven away by the community (there are exceptional cases, of course), because let's be honest, once you have invested all this time into integrating yourself into the game and the community you generally stick with it. It's just that the ones who do leave because they feel they have been "driven away" always make (or try and make) a giant @#(!storm.