Technoflux Lead Indicators

Andon · Post by **Andon** » Wed May 20, 2009 4:24 pm

Hrm... Another slightly weird idea, taken from Compellor and his Shivan faction thread.

How about giving ints the "Relay Lead Indicator" tag, but no lead indicator themselves? An int's scan range is fairly short, so it wouldn't be much, but if you had two ints, they would give each other lead indicators on whatever they could see. Would make Ints better in numbers (More stuff with lead indicators, etc).

I do like the scout relay lead indicator thing a lot, though, since it is, well, a scout. It's what it does. (See BSG core - Does the same thing)

Icky · Post by **Icky** » Wed May 20, 2009 5:17 pm

I like the idea of the adv/hvy scouts relaying it. This would also mean if there is a swarm of voobs coming at you, you could take out the scout first so they resume flying in circles.

Adept · Post by **Adept** » Wed May 20, 2009 7:11 pm

Icky wrote:QUOTE (Icky @ May 20 2009, 08:17 PM) I like the idea of the adv/hvy scouts relaying it. This would also mean if there is a swarm of voobs coming at you, you could take out the scout first so they resume flying in circles.

Perfect!

BobtheHobo · Post by **BobtheHobo** » Wed May 20, 2009 11:39 pm

As a player who can't aim at all I like lead indicators.

What really separates a voob from a vet is the ability to realize your enemy has a lead indicator and to deal with it. The lead indicator is based on a ship's velocity, the solution then is to accelerate. If you change your velocity rapidly enough then aiming at the lead indicator becomes a hindrance and not a help.

Frankly, I'm all for making noobs better at the game. I know you guys like massacring them in wave after wave but the less difference between the abilities of a noob and a vet the less stacks matter and the more fun those noobs have. Speaking from personal experience, it's not fun going after the enemy miner again and again only to be mowed down by Brood.

I'd support all ships having lead indicators instead of taking away TF's if you really think they make TF too strong.

Buyo · Post by **Buyo** » Wed May 20, 2009 11:58 pm

I don't think any ship has enough accel while strafing to do that, also when killing miners I don't think you can kill one going at let's say 100 mps + unless it's a dreg adv miner (?)

QUOTE Frankly, I'm all for making noobs better at the game. I know you guys like massacring them in wave after wave but the less difference between the abilities of a noob and a vet the less stacks matter and the more fun those noobs have. Speaking from personal experience, it's not fun going after the enemy miner again and again only to be mowed down by Brood.[/quote]

I'm all for making noobs better at the game, but by their own means, so you have cadet one and two plus ACS.

HSharp · Post by **HSharp** » Thu May 21, 2009 12:12 am

Guys your looking at it the wrong way, it's worse on newbies for TF to have the lead indicators, the ones with the lead indicitors will not learn how to aim, and the newbies without the lead indicators will get shredded in an unfair fight, (0)'s with TF ints/enh figs vs (0)'s of any other factions ints or enh figs and my money is on the TF newbies.

The relaying lead idea sounds interesting.

However I do think that with removing the lead indicator the ROF for TF needs an increase, this will make them slightly more deadly and they won't have to rely on shooting from long range to get thier kills as they generally do now.

cashto · Post by **cashto** » Thu May 21, 2009 12:39 am

spideycw wrote:QUOTE (spideycw @ May 20 2009, 09:02 AM) I think that is one kick ass idea personally!

I think the focus on teamwork this brings is a great idea. On one hand a heavy int at the end of the day is a heavy int lead indicator or no. But with a scout nearby it will become a much better heavy ints for noobs!

Fantastic suggestion

I think this requires a code change, unless you don't mind lead indicators on all ships, advanced or not (including other scouts). AFAIK there is no way to say "this ship gets no lead indicators, even if relayed from another ship".

Post by **zombywoof** » Thu May 21, 2009 3:56 am

No one was suggesting they do. The idea was that having an adv/heavy (I'm leaning towards heavy only) scout nearby would relay a lead indicator. Spidey was just using heavy int as an example.

cashto · Post by **cashto** » Thu May 21, 2009 4:33 am

phoenix1 wrote:QUOTE (phoenix1 @ May 20 2009, 08:56 PM) No one was suggesting they do. The idea was that having an adv/heavy (I'm leaning towards heavy only) scout nearby would relay a lead indicator. Spidey was just using heavy int as an example.

I think it would be better to do that for all factions, not just TF. It certainly fits the theme of "stop scouts from being whore ships and turn them into more effective support craft instead".

DasSmiter · Post by **DasSmiter** » Thu May 21, 2009 2:47 pm

Scouts will always be whore ships