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Post by Evincar »

command.
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Evincar wrote:QUOTE (Evincar @ Jun 28 2008, 05:17 PM) command.
Fail.


Very good post, Neo.

TB
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fuzzylunkin1

Post by fuzzylunkin1 »

You honestly don't need to learn how to dogfight. Learn how to stay hidden in a scout and that works for other things.
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Post by neotoxin »

Try saying that to someone that's attacking your miner in your home, in which you'll have to undock and kill. You don't know how to dogfight, that miner goes ba-bye.
QUOTE neotoxin@SF (all): i'm too tired of commanding right now
neotoxin@SF (all): i just want to fly ... and face$#@! brood
^Broodwich@SysX (all): ewwww
^Broodwich@SysX (all): that stuff has gotten me into trouble too much[/quote]
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Post by beeman »

k...I ain't exactly a person to give advice...but a few observations for what its worth....

KB...a high KB makes you a better dogfighter (not really...but it puts a little ass behind ur guns and makes things a lot easier).

Now while most pilots can pod me in a fair fight, I soon discovered that there are no "fair" fights anyway. Therefore, I'd rather be the guy with the advantage:
** Speaking in my best Sean Connery **
If they use a scout, you use a fig
If they come at you with a fig, you get an int
THAT's how you get Capone.

Get on TS and talk to some vets. Most will help you - some may even give lessons.

And like was mentioned above...find something ya like doing and get good at it. Certain skills (like miner D) are invaluable to a team.

Have fun!
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Post by neotoxin »

Drizzo can be the first to tell you that KB means nothing. He can charge an adv fig that has a KB of 40 w/ a lt int and a KB of 10 and still win. I've took down people w/ 32 KBs with a 0 KB myself. Kill bonuses mean nothing if you have no skill to put behind it. Those kills could have came from miners, proxing an aleph, or being on a turret. But if you see someone that has a kill:eject ratio of more than 3:1, it's more than likely skill.
QUOTE neotoxin@SF (all): i'm too tired of commanding right now
neotoxin@SF (all): i just want to fly ... and face$#@! brood
^Broodwich@SysX (all): ewwww
^Broodwich@SysX (all): that stuff has gotten me into trouble too much[/quote]
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Post by beeman »

WRONG!!!

First, I NEVER said skill was not important. In fact, I explicitly stated that KB does NOT make you a better dogfighter.
Second your statement that KB means NOTHING is plain wrong. All things being equal, I'd rather have the larger KB.

To summarize:
1) Skill is essential.
2) KB HELPS
3) neo needs to learn to shut his mouth and read before he ignorantly flames ppl and looks like an idiot.
Last edited by beeman on Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:38 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Post by neotoxin »

fishbone wrote:QUOTE (fishbone @ Jun 28 2008, 08:15 PM) KB...a high KB makes you a better dogfighter (not really...but it puts a little ass behind ur guns and makes things a lot easier).
fishbone wrote:QUOTE (fishbone @ Jun 28 2008, 08:38 PM) First, I NEVER said skill was not important. In fact, I explicitly stated that KB does NOT make you a better dogfighter.
Contradiction much? Even though you said (not really...) you've still said higher KB makes you a better dogfighter. You wouldn't have left it up there if you really didn't mean it.

Second, come on fish. I'm not trying to flame you, I'm not trying to bait you. I'm not even trying to be a troll. I'm trying to give helpful advice and simply telling people that when it all boils down to it, KB doesn't matter but skill does. And even when you do have a high KB, don't expect to have it for long because you WILL get podded and your pod WILL get killed unless you can sneak out of the sector, which more than likely doesn't happen.

Third, I'm ignorantly flaming now? Right, please don't stoop down to the level of petty name calling. I'm trying to post helpful advice in what's supposed to be a helpful thread.
QUOTE neotoxin@SF (all): i'm too tired of commanding right now
neotoxin@SF (all): i just want to fly ... and face$#@! brood
^Broodwich@SysX (all): ewwww
^Broodwich@SysX (all): that stuff has gotten me into trouble too much[/quote]
fuzzylunkin1

Post by fuzzylunkin1 »

neotoxin wrote:QUOTE (neotoxin @ Jun 28 2008, 08:12 PM) Try saying that to someone that's attacking your miner in your home, in which you'll have to undock and kill. You don't know how to dogfight, that miner goes ba-bye.
If you're good enough in that scout, you might not need to worry.
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Post by Saikon »

neotoxin wrote:QUOTE (neotoxin @ Jun 28 2008, 08:12 PM) Try saying that to someone that's attacking your miner in your home, in which you'll have to undock and kill. You don't know how to dogfight, that miner goes ba-bye.
Actually its usually around the other way. You launch to try and kill the attacker, the miner goes ba-bye. If you are first to respond then use a nan. Give the team a few more seconds to respond and help.
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