Frame rate problem with new graphics cards

Dogbones · Post by **Dogbones** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:13 am

amer you should be fine with a lot of slightly older mid range cards.

The ATI X800 worked fine for me. Most cards should work there are just a few that are having issues (but this number may grow as people start getting the newer cards).

Psychosis · Post by **Psychosis** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:37 am

8600 GS, but to be fair, I avoid driver updates like the $#@!ing plague

TheVoid37 · Post by **TheVoid37** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:50 am

I also followed the instructions on using the Driver cleaner program and it screwed me all up, to the point where I wish I had the time to re-install. After running the driver cleaner program I can't go back to older drivers now. Running their installs returns the message from the NVIDIA install about not being able to find any hardware for use with those drivers. So now I am stuck with the newer drivers with sub teen frame rates. Basically unplayable. That should teach me to screw with programs that alter windows cab files.

FIZ · Post by **FIZ** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:01 am

Void are you trying to use a driver # < 160.xxx? I tried installing the one Wasp linked to (93.71) and got that error. Those drivers don't recognize the 8800.

TheVoid37 · Post by **TheVoid37** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:16 pm

I tried about 16 different drivers in all.

Tried the 93's, 99's, 100's, 153's and 162's as well as a few others. Tried about every driver I could get off off Guru3D and after running the driver cleaner I can only install the 162's none of the others will see my video card as hardware that they have a driver for.

I'll just run the newest beta drivers and keep trying any new releases they have, till then I guess I am SOL. I would love to do a re-install and undo whatever driver cleaner did but I don't feel like sitting through the 7 gig Warhammer Beta download again, let alone my other apps on that machine.

DrBeginner · Post by **DrBeginner** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:13 pm

You do have a "roll back drivers" option.

TheVoid37 · Post by **TheVoid37** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:08 am

right. But when you install a new graphics card and install the new drivers right off the start, you don't.

Also if you run the driver cleaner program you don't have any thing to restore back to either.

lawson · Post by **lawson** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:10 am

My system slows down during the game, but hitting ESC O X to change the texture size (doesn't matter what it changes from or too, oddly...) pops the frame rate back up over 100. It gradually drops lower the longer I play. When it gets below 20, I flip the texture size again and keep on playing.

I wonder if something's holding too much "stuff" in a texture cache somewhere and depleting the card's memory? I know almost nothing about the guts of video card programming, though. Just "feels" like a memory leak.

Geeky stuff: 2GB RAM with the following vid specs:

NVIDIA System Information report created on: 03/25/2008 23:05:34
System name: GANDALF2

[Display]
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ (2199 MHz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP (Service Pack 2)
DirectX version: 9.0c
GPU processor: GeForce 7950 GT
ForceWare version: 169.21
Memory: 512 MB
Video BIOS version: 5.71.22.42.06
IRQ: 16
Bus: PCI Express x16

Good luck: this kind of bug is probably a major pain to fix.

MashMellows · Post by **MashMellows** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:02 am

Running Vista 2GB RAM with nVidia 7600 128Mb RAM.
With hi-res pack - 32bit colours.

I get low 10~ fps in 1024x768 with anti-aliasing on.
Kiling anti-aliasing boost it over 70fps.

Don't have the need to swithout anything - since it runs sweet without anti-aliasing.

Could it be the newer drivers are getting a bit too smart and start 'caching' the texture memory from the graphics card onto system aka swap-file memory (PCI Express/AGP)?

Snack · Post by **Snack** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:47 am

Wow, I used to do EXACTLY what lawson does on my HP 9420 17" laptop with ATI Radeon Mobility X1600 256MB (driver from HP) and Vista 32-bit. After a while it was so annoying I quit playing alltogether. The SAME laptop worked without a problem when I had Windows XP SP2 on it. I tried to tweak some video card options, but it didn't work (not an expert here) and FPS still remained a problem. Now that I see lawson has Win XP and EXACTLY the same problem, I am beginning to think it doesn't have anything to do with OS... /unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":unsure:" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

Finally, my new PC has an ATI Radeon HD3870x2 (two GPU's on one board) and initially my FPS didn't want to go over 4 fps (it felt even worse) with weird screen flicker. After some fiddling which is logged in Helpline section it works perfectly with over 350 FPS @ 1920x1200 in flight and over 900 FPS in lobby. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> (BTW I use a separate WinXP SP2 HDD for Alleg)
I am really happy it works now, but as to what exactly made it work, I am not sure...