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QUOTE (Sundance_ @ Oct 9 2011, 04:50 PM) It was meant to be a history lesson for the non-US members on how the government expanded to what it is now, leading to the erosion of the individual states' rights.

Well then I refer you to a basic history of technology, with special attention to ...

Yeah, I'm sure I've discussed how bogus this chart is before.

If I do the tests that go with this chart, I come out a libertarian, despite the fact that I'm a full blown orthodox commie. And I can show you why.

Let me just give you one citation as a demonstration of how flawed this all is, from ...

Sundance_ wrote:QUOTE (Sundance_ @ Oct 9 2011, 04:08 PM) And sadly, the Constitution has been shat on over and over and over again since it's inception. Bigger and bigger government ftl.

A fantastic example of totally failing to get it.

QUOTE (NightRychune @ Oct 9 2011, 03:57 PM) super die-hard leftists (as in modern liberals and progressives) get super pissy at being associated with nazis

I'm sure that;s true, but lets be quite clear: you have NO leftists in the US. None, nada, zip, $#@!all.

Well ok, a tiny percentage of the ...

QUOTE (Camaro @ Oct 9 2011, 03:53 PM) But to understand the argument that Nazism was an example of the far left you first must understand the political spectrum that is being measured against.

I do understand it. That is the problem.

QUOTE The people who argue that see the left-right spectrum in ...

QUOTE (Camaro @ Oct 9 2011, 03:44 PM) It does have its drawbacks, but coupled with another philosophy it isn't bad... much better than following the policies of a "liberal" or "conservative" with no adjoining libertarian philosophy.

Well no, quite the opposite. At least default liberalism and ...

QUOTE (Camaro @ Oct 9 2011, 03:31 PM) What is your reasoning for it being utter stupidity?

The fact that there are very fundamental differences between the far right and the far left.

If you keep on this path you'll end up as one of those idiots that ends up proclaiming the Nazism was an example ...

QUOTE (Camaro @ Oct 9 2011, 03:23 PM) Oh sharp, sharp. You mistake me for a full on Libertarian.

Well, not really. I didn't say you would do these things I merely pointed to what a Libertarian do. Fact is that Libertarianism is the dumbest political "philosophy", if it can even be granted that ...

NightRychune wrote:QUOTE (NightRychune @ Oct 7 2011, 05:52 PM) how do we do that? i don't have a $#@!in clue,

QUOTE (Camaro @ Oct 7 2011, 05:37 PM) No way, an actual Libertarian wants nothing more than a defensive force... they are non-interventionists... basically they are the remnants of the Old Republican party pre-1970s.

That calls for a massive reduction in the size of the armed forces. Really it ...