Call for volunteers: merging Allegiance into FS2

Imago · Post by **Imago** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:02 pm

QUOTE mega drama there[/quote]

mega drama here. hey guys lets clone allegiance using freespace... oh but lets change everything a little bit, like KB

*pushes glasses up*

coopertronic · Post by **coopertronic** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:22 am

The hud layout looks very much like the default allegiance one.

>> Freespace2 Vid <<

I'm downloading the Babylon Project at the moment.

>> Babylon Project vid <<

I have the original FS1 and 2 discs but I think you don't need them for the Babylon project.

Adaven · Post by **Adaven** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:45 am

KGJV wrote:QUOTE (KGJV @ Aug 4 2011, 10:33 AM) KB in its current design is a very controversial feature of Allegiance and it deserves its own thread to discuss (expect mega drama there).

I think what originally prompted MadP's post about KB, wasn't KB itself, but the fact that pods in Allegiance aren't "invulnerable". KB is merely an incentive to kill enemy pods, and a penalty to players for "dying". Otherwise, you'd always let the other guy float and always try to suicide yourself. That's unusual behavior in a war, and there should be some measure to make things reasonable in this regard. Whether the best way to accomplish this is KB or something else, is a topic for another thread as you say.

The 5 minute lifespan is also very important. Nothing sucks the joy out of the new player experience than getting podded far from home with no chance of rescue.

Makida · Post by **Makida** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:09 am

Adaven wrote:QUOTE (Adaven @ Aug 5 2011, 01:45 AM) Otherwise, you'd always let the other guy float and always try to suicide yourself. That's unusual behavior in a war, and there should be some measure to make things reasonable in this regard.

Trying to kill your own life boat would certainly be unusual in war, but that could be solved by making escape pods completely invulnerable to mine fields and enemy collisions and the like. I'd like to see that actually; it always seemed ridiculous that you could kill your own pod in any way to respawn instantly. If you get podded, it should be either get rescued, get shot down by KB-hunters, or float for five minutes.

Killing enemy pods would not necesarily be "usual" if you want to talk about behaviour in war; at various times in history there were rules and customs about trying to keep war "civilized," as it were, so I think sparing enemy life-boats could be seen as perfectly normal. But I guess that's neither here nor there when it comes to game-play.

MatthTheGeek · Post by **MatthTheGeek** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:38 am

coopertronic wrote:QUOTE (coopertronic @ Aug 5 2011, 04:22 AM) >> Freespace2 Vid <<

Now, really. You had to dig up a 4 years old vid for that ?

FSO evolves so quickly that these visuals are horribly outdated already.

coopertronic · Post by **coopertronic** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:32 pm

It's still a nice one!

It was plastered on lots of different sites.

I can't wait to try the TBP. Last time I saw that it was still in development and it wasn't standalone.

MatthTheGeek · Post by **MatthTheGeek** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:32 pm

And if you think Total Conversions are good, watch this.

Clay_Pigeon · Post by **Clay_Pigeon** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:19 pm

KGJV wrote:QUOTE (KGJV @ Aug 4 2011, 11:33 AM) KB in its current design is a very controversial feature of Allegiance

I'd hardly say that KB is controversial. The only anti-KB thread I can recall included the phrase "FACE THE FACTS!"

KGJV · Post by **KGJV** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:46 pm

SP4WN wrote:QUOTE (SP4WN @ Aug 3 2011, 03:29 PM) If neutral ground or a more personal approach is needed at any point, i would be more than happy to host.

If by monday nothing new here, we'll be happy to be hosted by you.

SP4WN · Post by **SP4WN** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:27 pm

KGJV wrote:QUOTE (KGJV @ Aug 5 2011, 07:46 PM) If by monday nothing new here, we'll be happy to be hosted by you.

Not a problem