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so whats really goin on if the news has sensationalized 1 person getting killed this much. its not like murder doesn't happen every $#@!ing single day

obama speech today

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office...-trayvon-martin

I was in Hollywood when this went down. I step out of the office at about 9:30pm, and am like "WTF is with all the police and helicopters?"

I just figured it was a movie premier and walked back to the hotel.

Then I see this in the bar the next night:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Ay6rBnx58



So, I was apparently 10 minutes late to the bum rush.

The next night, the whole area was swarming with cops and news vans. I mean SWARMING. There was a newsie on every slightly famous corner trying to interview people or doing pickup shots. They (the newsies) were just creaming themselves hoping for a repeat, but no such luck.

The locals were all saying it was related to the trial, but I think it was just general stupid in action.

If he left the gun in his car, Martin may have beat him to death. God only knows.

raumvogel wrote:QUOTE (raumvogel @ Jul 19 2013, 07:51 PM) If he left the gun in his car, Martin may have beat him to death. God only knows.

If he left the gun in his car, Martin would be still alive. Everbody know it

clint wrote:QUOTE (clint @ Jul 19 2013, 08:18 PM) If he left the gun in his car, Martin would be still alive. Everbody know it

And he may be dead. You are an idiot,please drop out of society.

there's a lot of what ifs. What if zimmerman didn't follow martin around. Then none of this would have happened. I can understand why people are upset about that part of it, because in that sense zimmerman contributed to Martin's death.

The problem is, we have no idea what happened during the confrontation. If Zimmerman started an altercation, than sure he should go down for murder. But what if martin threw the first punch, jumped on zimmerman, and started pummeling him? In that case, Martin's the one in the wrong.

The problem is, we just don't have the evidence to prove one version of events over another. What the evidence DOES show, is that at the time of the discharge of the firearm, Martin was on top of zimmerman, punching him in the face and zimmerman's head was bouncing off the concrete. In that situation, I dont think any reasonable person can dispute that zimmerman had a right to exercise deadly force in self defense.

clint wrote:QUOTE (clint @ Jul 19 2013, 03:34 PM) Its interessing to look who defend zimmerman, and those who think he should be in jail.

One side, we have got those who defends the american dream and self defense, I named the white trash : takingarms and archangelus.

Archangelus as white trash?? oh boy.

I am offended that I was not named as the white trash.

raumvogel wrote:QUOTE (raumvogel @ Jul 20 2013, 02:51 AM) If he left the gun in his car, Martin may have beat him to death. God only knows.

That is incredibly rare.

Even knifings are rately fatal. Shooting somebody is in a whole different league.