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In response to my posts in this thread, Imago just lobby banned me in-game. Someone ban him now

Masta, Imago (in the years I have been here) has put in more time developing the source than anyone else I can think of. He wasn't the only one, but he knows the code best. The utter bull@#(! you have been spouting is a slap in the face to anyone who has ever contributed to allegiance.

And if your brain is engineered for programming, then download the source. Although you probably won't, because in order to do that you would need to put actual effort into supporting the game, and would probably have to contact imago, because HE IS THE ONE WHO KNOWS HOW IT WORKS.

As far as I've seen, Imago just suddenly popped out of the woodwork, start campaigning in-game and no the forums for some useless (which I elaborated on) features that he was asking opinions on. then he got all upset like a 5 year old, said [WELL IF I'M DOING THE CODING ANYWAY WHY DO YOU CARE IF IT'S USELESS] after he asked opinions on the features he was proposing. Then he joined the opposing team to try to pod my scout in his int, failed several times, then ragequit. It was at this point that I decided Imago is an immature dolt that never should be taken seriously.
Last time I saw him in a game he made it a point to repeatedly PK my pod regardless of my KB all-game because it was the only opportunity he ever got to see me explode, because he is really, really, incredibly bad at Allegiance.
Then once R6 got on beta lobby, most of the hours imago spent logged in were spamming EVERYONE GO JOIN BETA, EVERYONE IS OVER THERE (which was a lie) on the non-beta servers until he ruined all chance for anyone who didn't want to beta test, to play. (several of whom were not beta testing for computer hardware/software problem reasons).

sambasti wrote:QUOTE (sambasti @ Aug 22 2010, 10:47 AM) Masta, Imago (in the years I have been here) has put in more time developing the source than anyone else I can think of.

If this is true, then I respectfully withdraw my comment suggesting Imago joined the Dev team for attention.




Everything else I said still stands though.

You're a $#@!ing moron.

It's lonely at the top of the world, let me tell you

Furthermore there are currently no less than two "I'm-Imago-and-I-need-Attention" threads

I'm somewhat inclined to tell masta to STFU since I don't think he is really adding any value to this thread. Is anyone in agreement with me on this?

While I'm posting it occurred to me that the position of "Community ZL" might be missing.
It occurred to me while considering TE and KG's discussion.
TE does an excellent job of running servers etc, but his response of "I've offered to step down if people don't like what I do" is unsatisfactory because we do like what TE does, and the community is better of with him than without him, but he isn't really resolving KG's concerns like opening the dev forum as read only to everyone. Personally I don't think that it is within TE's domain of responsibilities to be dealing with such questions. - Hence the need for some other community position designed to address concerns of community members about how things are run here (i.e. deal with all the political and dramary stuff and leave TE free to do what he does best - the politically neutral job of keeping the lights on).
Requires more thought though

Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.

Wow this thread is devolving quickly.
Recognize when you're being trolled guys and don't reply with emotion.

pkk wrote:QUOTE (pkk @ Aug 22 2010, 12:48 PM) Question: Who appoints Zoneleaders?
You do, not the community. Welcome to Absurdistan.

That's where you're wrong.
The ZLs choose the other ZLs. I grant the ZLs administrative access on my systems.
They usually ask my opinions, and I give them. I'd tell them if I would refuse to give someone admin access to my systems... but the choice of ZL isn't mine.

A perfect example is FreeBeer taking over the helpline. The only interaction I had was saying "Just make sure he knows that once he goes ZL it's tough to go back to playing for fun. Everyone will look at him differently and will hate him just because they can. if he's still fine with it, then so be it"

It seems this is a common misconception about the structure here which is driving a lot of the emotions. Bard tried to clear it up earlier in this thread.
The ZLs are in charge of the community.
I am in charge of some computers.

If the ZLs tell me to do something, I do it. In the "power structure" (if you call it that) I am below the ZLs. If they decide to put everything on someone else's servers, then I'll do that. If they decide that someone else should hold the DNS keys then I'll do that.

pkk wrote:QUOTE (pkk @ Aug 22 2010, 12:48 PM) And since you quote Thalgor so often, please remind this:

Was spidey a primary contributor of CC team? No, you pushed him into the existing structure. (Maybe the best solution during that drama.)

Was Cort and now Bard a primary contributor of DevZone? No, you pushed both into the existing team.

The ZLs chose spidey, and the ZLs+me came to a compromise with both Cort and Bard.

I hate to be blunt, but the reason for the whole DevZL problem we've had for the last 6 months is me.
As owner of my server, I refused to grant admin access to the most active developer. This was my choice and it was made for my reasons. The ZLs respected it.
We were all really grasping at straws to find a replacement until Bard threw his name into the pool. Bard has a recognizable name in our community, knows how to code, and had experience with managing developers. In this case he seemed like an ideal fit based on his history offline and online.
Unfortunately not everyone agreed, but that is 100% common with any decision made by ANYBODY.
You can't please everyone, and you will make yourself crazy trying to.

So I'm not making any excuses.

Now back on topic... if Imago really is "leaving" unless a charity of his choice receives a donation amount to his satisfaction then that's his choice.

Let's all put our backs down, give ourselves some stretches, go outside for smokes, or whatever it is each of you do to relax.
If anything, this topic has brought about one very positive realization:
ALLEGIANCE WILL BE HERE TO STAY FOR A LONG TIME!

With so many of us vouching our commitment to keep this game alive, I think we are probably one of the luckiest communities online. I wish every other community had people even half-as-passionate about their cause as we are about ours.

--TE

madpeople wrote:QUOTE (madpeople @ Aug 22 2010, 11:09 AM) I'm somewhat inclined to tell masta to STFU since I don't think he is really adding any value to this thread. Is anyone in agreement with me on this?0

I'm not obligated to add value to something which had no value to begin with.

I have donated $25 to a charity of Imago's choice.