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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:07 pm
by Adept
germloucks wrote:QUOTE (germloucks @ Dec 15 2012, 11:48 PM) Right, guns dont equal freedom; however, gun control doesnt equal crime control either.
You're right. Less guns = less people getting shot is the thing I focus on. Violent crime is a question of social safetynets, employment, decent schools... and a matter for the police rather than for armed citizens.
As long as the police force is held strictly accountabe and under public scrutiny I'm perfectly happy with this arrangement.
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:10 pm
by Mastametz
Adept wrote:QUOTE (Adept @ Dec 15 2012, 03:07 PM) As long as the police force is held strictly accountabe and under public scrutiny I'm perfectly happy with this arrangement.
It's not. The police force in general is incredibly corrupt. Whenever they do wrong they sweep it under the rug. and until very recently (last couple months) it's been illegal in some states to make a video recording of police so they can be held accountable for anything.
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:24 pm
by Adept
I know Masta, that was a reference to northern Europe. I can totally understand why you guys in the states distrust and even hate the po-po.
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:26 pm
by Mastametz
And another major reason why Americans don't won't surrender their guns. The police do a lousy job of protecting anyone. They can't even protect us from themselves.
Relevant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXomHHwha-w
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:28 am
by HSharp
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:31 am
by Vortrog
I like dome and duckies points.
Owning a firearm is legal here. People still shoot and the rifle clubs still are full on weekends. We still have. Shootings but not mass shooting. If the uss sshould change anything, its stricter control on automatic longarms and pistols. Autoloading magnifies the problem and wackjobs don't find bolt action firearms cool for being $#@!tards
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:33 am
by Mastametz
Firearms training should be mandated for everyone in the US. At least that way when someone wants to shoot someone they don't end up killing like 15 others on accident.
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:40 am
by SpkWill
Doesn't appear to have worked for the US military.
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:40 am
by Mastametz
True. But that's not lack of technical skill, more lack of giving a $#@!, I think.
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:11 am
by Broodwich
god bless republicans adn the second amendment