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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:04 pm
by spideycw
You are posting an awful lot based on it sounds like one game. Maybe try playing a bit more than come running back to the forums?
I think you will find this is a rare problem and you should not judge all commanders or the whole community on it!
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:10 pm
by Xizornor
Point taken!
I'll do just that!
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:28 pm
by Xason
RenegadePeon if your interested in join SRM send me a PM or post in our recruitment thread
SRM's Recruiting Thread
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:51 pm
by KofiMan
Game has a lot of history, Riz, and some of the squadgames are quite serious. I think there was a recent fraps by Palidor's Knights that was a great demonstration of the difference between squad level play and pick up play.
http://www.freeallegiance.org/forums/index...st&p=379533
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:15 pm
by Raveen
Xizornor wrote:QUOTE (Xizornor @ Jul 25 2009, 03:36 PM) I must appologize!!
I didn't mean that I want to start a new squad. Because I don't. And yes, I have read the wikia and there it seemd like; oh my god, what
a seriouse game.
My impression was that it must be bigger than EVE! More members and a lot more teams.
Well seems it isnt. It seems its only a small community
Sorry for cutting out the newbie stuff but that's been covered better than I could by others
You say that the wiki's packed full of information as if this game was substantially larger than it is? Look at it like this, this game is so good that a few hundred people are so passionate about it that they'll put all that together (actually the wiki's the work of a few insanely wikihappy individuals but bear with me) therefore this must be one of the best games ever.
Yes it's a pain when you start because there's a hell of a lot to learn. But we try to make it easier for you. Join Cadet (check the wiki for details
) and you'll learn the basics, then Cadet II to get even more information, then join a squad and keep learning. Sure there are some hostile folks here, but there also a hell of a lot of us who are here to help.
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:30 pm
by zombywoof
Xizornor wrote:QUOTE (Xizornor @ Jul 25 2009, 07:57 AM) Ok, I understand that.
So maybe the text schould be changed in the wiki then;
"Some commanders have the ethos 'If I boot them they'll learn that their mistake was wrong'. Some commanders have the 'I'm pissed off and
I'll boot anyone who doesn't do exactly what I say' ethos. Some commanders just think 'Whatever, it's just a game.'
Most of the time commanders fall into the third category. Generally you don't have to worry about getting booted unless you really stuff the team up,
or really piss the commander off personally. Furthermore, new players with a rank of 4 or less are partially protected from booting by the Rules of Conduct."
And then you might add;
"As a new player you might not have the chanse to play at all, even to see if u like this game or not. Its all up to the Commander to let you get ingame."
I find that very special to this game.
Yes, in most other games, open to the public, you at least get to play the game. Then after playing for some time the new players can deside if this game are
interesting to them.
How can you deside if u don't get to play?
I don't know if you've ever played Starcraft? In Starcraft, you have a win-loss record, and it's not unusual if your win/loss is bad to have the members who are going to be on your team quit or the game owner simply ban you because he thinks you're not good enough. The same thing happens in UMS games, where if the game owner sees that you don't have the map you're playing on and you're downloading it, you'll often get banned for being a "newbie" even if you aren't.
Moral of the story: newbie 'hatred' is something that is pretty much constant across all team-based games. If you have to rely on your partner to win, would you rather have someone who's been playing for ten years or ten days? I'd say it's much LESS pronounced in Allegiance, as our primary concern (most of the time) is keeping the teams even rather than making sure both teams are excellent.
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 6:20 pm
by TeeJ
Trust me, as long as you can get past the occasional @#$%@# without allowing them to run you off, and then play the game enough to get a feel for whats going on around you....take cadet....get a better feel for whats going on around you.....figure out who you like...and who you don't......maybe set a few boundaries over time with some of the @#$%@#s.....you'll be fine. If you fall in love with the game, you'll learn to overlook, or maybe better understand the social aspect of Allegiance's gaming concept. Since Microsoft released it to the community, we been kinda like FUBU (For Us, By Us) so a lot of the folks that you're playing with have a lot invested in one fashion or another in this gaming community.
Keep your chin up...don't wear your feelings on your sleeve and you may actually enjoy the game.
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:35 pm
by Xizornor
Ok tnx guys!
I allready have a little better understanding now, just by playing a newbie server for some hours.
Might be I put a probe or two on the exits in the heat...
I fully appriciate that someone take the effort to develop and keep up with the evolution in the gaming world.
It seems like a very addictive game indeed.
So tnx for all good advice, Ill check out this game further and have already signed up for the cadet training.
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 10:07 pm
by spideycw
The best way to learn is definitely to hop onto the main game going on and kick some ass!
Glad you are enjoying
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:09 am
by CronoDroid
Blah blah blah, the "What Not To Post" thread should be mandatory reading for all new players IMO. Like an ASGS message during their first log-in THAT CAN'T BE CLOSED...for five minutes anyway. That'll teach those suckers to mess with us.