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Posted: **Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:00 pm**

Dome wrote:QUOTE (Dome @ Jul 10 2015, 05:12 AM) Why would offering money for any dev to finish R8 be considered insulting. It's gratitude! It's for appreciation of a skill most do not posses.

Cuz when all is said and done, it probably won't amount to minimum wage.

Money has a way of turning "thing I want to do" into "thing I'm only doing because I'm getting paid to do it".

Posted: **Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:09 pm**

I'm always in for telling Cashto to go $#@! himself

Cashto go $#@! yourself

..

Is that pleasant hrrmphing of pkk I hear?

Posted: **Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:41 pm**

cashto wrote:QUOTE (cashto @ Jul 9 2015, 11:23 AM) ^^ (deathrender's comment)

If you want to fix Allegiance, the best way to start would be to go find out these pieces of information and post graphs of them on General.

Unique visitors over the past 6 months (both websites).Downloads over the past 6 months.New account creations over the 6 months.Attach rates for new account creations (histogram of number hours of played 3 days, 7 days, one month, and three months after account creation).

Then we can begin to have a productive, data-driven discussion over what metrics are lagging and what we can reasonably do to improve them. Going forward, we use that data to ensure that our initiatives actually are effective.

Once upon a time I mentioned exactly this and got shouted down for not knowing what I was talking about. It's nice to know the tradition of "P1's ideas are rejected until three (months, days, years, hours) later someone else suggests them" is alive and well outside of my work environment

BTW Cashto's a genius, and also I know both a PM and a coder who'd be more than happy to work on this for pay, but you almost soitenly couldn't afford them.

Posted: **Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:27 pm**

how much do you pay ?

I didn't read all the pages so may be the 'price' was mentionned already.

I ain't cheap and it won't be 100% of my time.

but I think I'm familiar enough with the game code

Posted: **Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:50 pm**

Heh heh KG: you old vet, you need to come back and play allegiance for a while, get your feet's wet before you jump in
it's not like before and it is not the same family we used to have.

Posted: **Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:55 pm**

Just to be sure everyone understands the Cashto was my version of a joke

Posted: **Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:19 pm**

I'm the real joke around here.

Posted: **Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:35 pm**

cashto wrote:QUOTE (cashto @ Jul 10 2015, 03:19 PM) I'm the real joke around here.

Birds of a feather

Posted: **Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:26 pm**

Man, that took a while to get a new quote in the sig.

Posted: **Sat Jul 11, 2015 1:20 pm**

KGJV wrote:QUOTE (KGJV @ Jul 10 2015, 02:27 PM) how much do you pay ?

I didn't read all the pages so may be the 'price' was mentionned already.

I ain't cheap and it won't be 100% of my time.

but I think I'm familiar enough with the game code

Go back and read through this thread, according to Imago R8 is done along with other goodies.
Download it, have a look at it and let me know what you think.
We can discuss price afterwards.
Feel free to send me a PM KGJV.

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