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tsubaki_sanjuro wrote:QUOTE (tsubaki_sanjuro @ Feb 14 2013, 02:52 PM) What a massive load of self-justifying bollocks. Dorner murdered four people, none of whom had offended him, and none of whom were part of the LAPD that he declared war on. Yet we are expected by you to think that the LAPD will be "improved" because one of its former officers killed four people not connected with it. Do you think Sandy Hook has been improved by those kids getting wasted?

I expect the LAPD to be more stringent with corruption cases, with more oversight/whatever. The people he killed and the manifesto just gave it national attention. At least something useful might come out of it, compared to these people
http://projects.latimes.com/homicide/date/2012/12/

Since you mention Sandy Hook, we finally got some national dialogue and might actually pass something meaningful about guns, that will save other people down the line. Worth it? That's for you to decide, but at least some good may come of it.
QUOTE Please do not misquote the agri. That quote was in response to criticism that the cops hadnt hit him in the gunfight at the end of this incident, where Dorner was firing back at them, was driving a stolen car and had been identified by two witnesses. If you dont think cops firing back in those circumstances is justified, then please go away.[/quote]
I wasnt quoting you

and the majority of society lives based on media-dictated culture

the media says something is a tragedy, and you feel bad.

one of those kids-starving-in-africa-charity-commercials, and you ignore it/change the channel.

the truth of the matter is you only care about your own countrymen dying, because your culture dictates you should feel that way

vogue wrote:QUOTE (vogue @ Feb 14 2013, 03:06 PM) ya'll getting out reasoned by metz hard on this one

LOL? We're getting outreasoned by the guy who's point is that death isn't really that horrible after all, and quit getting bent out of shape about the deaths of people you've never even met, but also $#@! the police for killing people none of us have even ever met?

The police are paid to do a certain job a certain way. They aren't doing it. Simple. Fire them. (and prosecute them) Anyone else would get fired for not doing their job. (and prosecuted for shooting innocents)
My personal, subjective feelings are irrelevant. That's how the system is set up, they are part of it, and their own system dictates that they should be held to the same (or higher) standard as anyone else.

where is sundance's donut-eating ass
I'm sure he'll have some good input, being a cop and all.
I'll summon him now.

vogue wrote:QUOTE (vogue @ Feb 14 2013, 11:06 PM) ya'll getting out reasoned by metz hard on this one, don't let your culture cloud your judgement. what's right and wrong to you does not apply to the world for the better or the worse.

do you even know what the word "reason" means?

I see. So. To recap ... death of innocent people: not a big deal. People not getting fired for poor job performance: a big $#@!ing deal.

though yeah the cops cheering on someone being burned alive was creepy as $#@!

Corruption is rampant across this country. It's a shame it takes an incident like this to bring it to light. Maybe a little something will be done about it. One can only hope.

cashto wrote:QUOTE (cashto @ Feb 14 2013, 03:24 PM) I see. So. To recap ... death of innocent people: not a big deal. People not getting fired for poor job performance: a big $#@!ing deal.

The fact that you try to "recap" it in those terms means you do not understand, at all.

Neither one a is a "bigger deal" than the other unless you subjectively "size it up" that way.
But I can argue based on other peoples views because virtually everyone here has a respect for the "human condition" and "rule of law" (I don't on either count)
and based on that thought process, it is reasonable to for the police to be held accountable for their actions

Sheriff Metz wrote:QUOTE (Sheriff Metz @ Feb 14 2013, 03:33 PM) But I can argue based on other peoples views because virtually everyone here has a respect for the "human condition" and "rule of law" (I don't on either count)

It must be nice, being a sociopath.