Papsmear wrote:QUOTE (Papsmear @ Oct 8 2019, 11:15 PM) The US mainly abandoned the Kurds.
Syria has the backing of Russia.
Trump might be running away from a fight to avoid a clash with Russian troops or maybe it's just an effort to save some cash.
Wars are expensive.
Not really, some special forces/Marines and some aircraft patrolling don't cost that much. ISIS/Daesh is more or less defeated. It is not about saving cash.
Right now we no longer have a four parties within the conflict, it turned down to three: Syria/Iran/Russia, Kurds/SDF/NATO, Turkey/SFA
The Escapist (Justin Emerson) @ Dec 21 2010, 02:33 PM:
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Papsmear wrote:QUOTE (Papsmear @ Oct 8 2019, 02:15 PM) The US mainly abandoned the Kurds.
Syria has the backing of Russia.
Trump might be running away from a fight to avoid a clash with Russian troops or maybe it's just an effort to save some cash.
Wars are expensive.
???
We've been involved for five years alongside Russia in Syria, you really think that?
If wars are expensive, then wtf are we still doing in Iraq and Afghanistan? Those cost loads more than Syria
We were the buffer between one of our closest allies in the region and someone who is supposedly our ally but also is now dealing with Russia.
When you have a record of abandoning your allies, expect them to do the same
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I don't know, turkey and the kurds will be enemies for the next 1000 years. I don't even know why turkey is in nato. Stability in the middle east over the years because of oil has been a priority. With renewable energy and energy independence in play now, spending money keeping peace in a religious war torn place seems a waste of money. The kurds did help us but we also helped them.
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minigun wrote:QUOTE (minigun @ Oct 10 2019, 05:04 AM) I don't even know why turkey is in nato.
Newly formed NATO and Turkey shared the same interests. Turkey also fought in Korea against the Communists and they acted as a buffer to stop the Soviet expansion into the Mediterranean.
The Escapist (Justin Emerson) @ Dec 21 2010, 02:33 PM:
The history of open-source Allegiance is paved with the bodies of dead code branches, forum flame wars, and personal vendettas. But a community remains because people still love the game.
Bare in mind Trump was not the acting President when any of those conflicts started.
Soldiers coming home in body bags is not good press for any standing government.
America has a long list of allies they abandoned.
I suppose if America were attacked we would see the response, or lack there of, from their allies.
With so many Americans being so grossly overweight, now might be the perfect time for an invasion from the north.
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pkk wrote:QUOTE (pkk @ Oct 9 2019, 01:57 AM) Remember, there were no real fights between two of the participants, basically we're down to two parties (Syria/Kurds vs Turkey/SFA): https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/ku ... re-manbij/
The Escapist (Justin Emerson) @ Dec 21 2010, 02:33 PM:
The history of open-source Allegiance is paved with the bodies of dead code branches, forum flame wars, and personal vendettas. But a community remains because people still love the game.
Papsmear wrote:QUOTE (Papsmear @ Oct 15 2019, 02:51 AM) Looks like things are going to get ugly between Syria and Turkey.
American special forces would be cought between them. Abandoning the kurds suck, a nato country acting this irresponsible sucks also. It's like canada invading north america becouse they hate the mexicans.
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