P1's Notebook

cashto · Post by **cashto** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:59 am

phoenix1 wrote:QUOTE (phoenix1 @ Dec 16 2014, 08:44 PM) The difference between teamwork, listening to the commander, and putting out good probes while also giving sound strategic and tactical advice is the difference between, say, a 12 who's a decent whore and a 14 who can't aim to save his life.

$#@! you, I'm a 15.

Post by **zombywoof** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:26 am

Age, rank, or IQ?

Malicious Wraith · Post by **Malicious Wraith** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:23 am

Deathrender wrote:QUOTE (Deathrender @ Dec 16 2014, 11:57 PM) Tell me... what is this... non-standard strafe?

Spam thrust left+right to make server desynch your position to make yourself balls hard to hit.

At least that's what Evincar told me back in 2007. I would probably suck at it if I tried.

ThePhantom032 · Post by **ThePhantom032** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:30 am

Personal flying skills are nice to have, but I like to think I have proven they are not required to reach a high rank a couple years back when I increased mine from 19 to 21 (or was it 18 to 20?) while playing for a few months with constant packet loss (thanks again ISP!) - completely unable to shoot or nan anything but long-term stationary targets (read: bases and rarely miners), and even those only half the time...

I pulled my weight by proxing alephs whenever possible (a day with bad packet loss meant this also had a high failure rate due to repeatedly jumping 2-3k on my own screen), but mostly by organizing the teams offense with superior intel (always being where the enemy is mining, and if theyre mining in multiple places the one we have the best chance of stopping while shouting at the team what to do including forming up etc), advising the commander on what to do next if needed, and deprobing ahead of important con pushes/ bombruns (even if i wouldnt be able to stay anywhere near the bomber due to packet loss I could usually deprobe with autopilot and missiles).

I've mostly kept playing this way ever since, because teamwork trumps solo skill in anything but the smallest of games - while even scouts can make that solo skill count with prox sometimes, that too is much much more effective if another good scout pilot is on the team to work with as a duo.

Post by **Dome** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:10 am

Phantom032 wrote:QUOTE (Phantom032 @ Dec 16 2014, 11:30 PM) I've mostly kept playing this way ever since, because teamwork trumps solo skill in anything but the smallest of games - while even scouts can make that solo skill count with prox sometimes, that too is much much more effective if another good scout pilot is on the team to work with as a duo.

KingJoffrey is not pleased btw.

Djole88 · Post by **Djole88** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:34 am

Ok, 1st When I say stack I don't mean alleg rank stack. Teamwork is and always will be superior to mindless dming and there is nothing wrong with it. What Drizzo said sounded to me like he'll somehow win by taking over against a superior team. Even against a commander not as good as him but one that remotely knows what he's doing that is simply false and won't happen in 80% of the PUGs, however when drizzo takes over if there were people in NOAT there is now a line waiting to join him and I don't say I blame them. He is an awesome commander and 1) not having to worry that your com will do stupid @#(! unless you persuade him otherwise is $#@!ing great. 2) Not just that he won't do stupid @#(! but he'll pull off some stuff you didn't think of!

You see how alleg works is that smart people will know that they should join what they perceive as the better commander in order to win, not so smart people (or those that don't care about winning) will join whichever side has an open spot. Now if you are up and against someone that this community regards as a better commander you will lose because you can: a) not accept players and hostage the game or b) know that by accepting a player your opponent is likely to get a better one.

fragtzack@END, Djole@END, Drizzo insults frag, Djole insults Drizzo.
It was not necessary and was uncalled for on both sides but hey, you usually want drama!
Drizzo is great!

carbon · Post by **carbon** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:27 am

Djole88 wrote:QUOTE (Djole88 @ Dec 17 2014, 08:34 AM) ...smart people will know that they should join what they perceive as the better commander in order to win, not so smart people (or those that don't care about winning) will join whichever side has an open spot.

The way to keep Allegiance alive and to enjoy great games is to anti-stack whenever possible.
The greatest games are the ones where a decent, but stacked against team, wins. The sense of achievement and stuffing it to the people who only join to beat on an easy win is more than worth it.

That is the smart play, the not so smart people join the easy win.

Of course, some games simply cannot be won like that, the stack is too great.

As for spamming the thrusters, it is really obvious when people do that and it just shows a bad pilot; no respect.

Djole88 · Post by **Djole88** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:53 pm

Trasher wrote:QUOTE (Trasher @ Dec 17 2014, 11:27 AM) The way to keep Allegiance alive and to enjoy great games is to anti-stack whenever possible.
The greatest games are the ones where a decent, but stacked against team, wins. The sense of achievement and stuffing it to the people who only join to beat on an easy win is more than worth it.

That is the smart play, the not so smart people join the easy win.

Of course, some games simply cannot be won like that, the stack is too great.

As for spamming the thrusters, it is really obvious when people do that and it just shows a bad pilot; no respect.

"Smart" wasn't the right word to use, excuse my limited vocabulary. What I meant is those that can successfully predict the outcome based on the team roster (and are abusing that fact).

vogue · Post by **vogue** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:47 pm

The only person I know who actively does that is p32. I should say used to do that. He anti stacks these days as well which was surprising to me, although he does rage quit rather often.

The people who join simply based on roster are usually Voobs who are trying to boost their ranks, I.E. Thallium. Other than those idiots I don't see many vets doing this. If I'm not going to anti stack I usually just don't join in general. No point in playing a lost game and no point in playing a won game.

Also I'll give you a pass this time djole since you don't know any better, but if you'd played this game when I first started you would've known the true meaning of stacked games. These days almost any game can be turned by the right people, mostly because we have people like you so eager to get open air proxed.

carbon · Post by **carbon** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:11 pm

To be fair to today's game, people generally make an effort to balance the teams; much more than I remember.
Also, Frag was one of the biggest anti-stackers in the past, then I remember him burning out and rage stacking every game