Was - RT vs XT. Now discussion of streaming Final game

[HSharp]

Knowing what you have is a lot less effective then actually seeing it on the radar for the whole team. The autocomplete for the attack command chat is still broken so you can tell what drones the enemy has. I didn't actually check during the game but could have easily checked and seen you had an exp con out, the He3 bug is still there so you can see where miners are mining, the build sphere bug is still there so you can see where stuff is being built without even having an eye in the sector.

So many ways to "cheat" already that watching/hearing a stream from another screen is more likely to hurt your performance then help.

Anyway it's clear that RT aren't interested in a live game, I would like to extend the offer to any other squad who are interested in a live stream SG and assuming Sai is happy to host it and we have commentators we can give an entertaining spectacle to people who may be interested in playing Allegiance, or alternatively/additionally turning Allegiance into a huge eSports event thus meaning I can quit my job and play Allegiance professionally! But you just hate me that much don't you grav you $#@!er!

[_xJammer_]

QUOTE (HSharp @ Nov 16 2010, 12:20 PM) Knowing what you have is a lot less effective then actually seeing it on the radar for the whole team. The autocomplete for the attack command chat is still broken so you can tell what drones the enemy has. I didn't actually check during the game but could have easily checked and seen you had an exp con out, the He3 bug is still there so you can see where miners are mining, the build sphere bug is still there so you can see where stuff is being built without even having an eye in the sector.

So many ways to "cheat" already that watching/hearing a stream from another screen is more likely to hurt your performance then help.

Anyway it's clear that RT aren't interested in a live game, I would like to extend the offer to any other squad who are interested in a live stream SG and assuming Sai is happy to host it and we have commentators we can give an entertaining spectacle to people who may be interested in playing Allegiance, or alternatively/additionally turning Allegiance into a huge eSports event thus meaning I can quit my job and play Allegiance professionally! But you just hate me that much don't you grav you $#@!er!

I am sure what people do not want is the drama after the game, in the lines of "Impossible! Your scout went directly to our HTT, what are the chances!". All of the other "cheats" you listed here are well known and used, but I have not seen one which would show you tp2 scouts, htt runs, uneyed bomber runs, or sbs in the sector. And I am sure that all of these are met in the game, if the team manages to get a techbase.

[HSharp]

Actually what I meant to add was that even with the attack-auto complete bug and the He3 drain bug it's still hard to get people to go kill cons and miners unless they are eyed.

And like I have said it's obvious that the majority of RT are against such an idea for the reasons posted in this thread so it's fine, willing to face another squad for a livecast game.

[Dorjan]

QUOTE (gr4vity @ Nov 16 2010, 04:01 PM) ps: Oh and can you remind me again. How long did it take SysX to finish the map and scout each and every base in the final?

They knew everything which mattered ahead of time but were unable to do anything about it due to the superior teamwork of RT.

All of RTs movements were clear as day and eyed pretty much right away but their attacks were poorly co-orientated when it counted then they were at a major tech/positioning disadvantage and unable to focus.

RT gained the upper hand and SysX never re-covered. They over-focused on the clearly bait miner because they were demoralised after only claiming one sector so were pretty much just ram-raiding.

One sector (right next to their op) was never eyed (for the tech rock) but there were no RT bases / attacks / miners ever in that sector.

[Cortex]

QUOTE (Dengaroth @ Nov 16 2010, 03:41 PM) The only difference I can think of right now is the viewers being aware of the final result. Which is easily remedied by a little discipline - all it takes is for the contestants not telling who won. That's not so hard to do, now is it?

Considering that *all* of RT were totally restraining themselves in #RollingThunder and not giving anything away, just to have Sai stumble in and trumpet it all out, I'd say: awfully hard.

[SaiSoma]

QUOTE (Cort @ Nov 16 2010, 03:32 PM) Considering that *all* of RT were totally restraining themselves in #RollingThunder and not giving anything away, just to have Sai stumble in and trumpet it all out, I'd say: awfully hard.

bah .well . i figured the cat was already out of the bag since it had been a good 20-30 mins since I posted that I didn't have the footage OR commentary. I figured it was old news on irc . ...my bad.

[SaiSoma]

First part posted. parts 2 and 3 will be tomorrow. I also may re-post part 1 if I can get the quality just a bit better.

edit: duh. linky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcMyXYtv3Ek

[LANS]

What's that in-base screen mod das is using? It looks pretty cool.

[Broodwich]

dunno why sharp is crusading for live, i'm in agreement with delayed. Besides i probably wont watch any of them anyway =P

[HSharp]

No-one cares what you think!