Welcome to Texas you all ( gun new laws)

[zombywoof]

Canadians are probably MORE violent than Americans, but you guys have hockey to let out your rage.

(P.S. most compelling evidence I've seen is relating homicide rates to the GINI coefficient. Poverty creates crime.)

[Globemaster_III]

In Texas, free CCW, free training and AR 15 for only 399 dollars if you buy an AR 15 it come with a free life time gun range membership
in the next 60 days, they gonna pass the laws on the silencer .

[Adept]

QUOTE (Wasp @ Dec 8 2016, 07:01 PM) Fixed

Yup. Still confusing guns with freedom.

[Duckwarrior]

Globey may be on to something. Let's face it, it's hard to imagine something that works less well than US gun policy. Perhaps drum magazines, flash suppressors and compulsory CCW will reduce the number of people who get shot. At least it is doing something, and at the end of the day Globey is the one living there who gets to participate in the experiment in real time.

Hey Globey.

Thank you for your service.

(Just in case)

[Globemaster_III]

Hi Duck : you're welcome

[Zwitter]

QUOTE (raumvogel @ Dec 8 2016, 01:13 AM) I worry about going "full on Western". How many are going to be accidentally shot by nervous cops?

I'm sure nobody gives a damn but "an armed society is a polite society." Criminals and shooters target gun control zones because the law abiding citizens don't have guns there, thus they're sitting ducks until the cops get there.

Rampage killers typically want to kill and harm as many people as possible before dying or committing suicide. That it takes cops anywhere from 5-15 minutes to even get there means the shooter has the advantage. No one is armed, he's the only one that knows what's about to go down, blah blah.

Now if every American citizen could just have a $#@!ing gun, people would be a lot less likely to start @#(!. Gun control laws only work if you're in a completely isolated system. Since guns can illegally come from Mexico there's a black market.

There are a couple weird nations like Finland or Denmark or some @#(! in Euroland that have mandatory firearm ownership and training. There's not a whole lot of gun violence there. Disarming the populace just makes the populace vulnerable.

QUOTE (Duckwarrior @ Jan 25 2017, 11:10 PM) Globey may be on to something. Let's face it, it's hard to imagine something that works less well than US gun policy. Perhaps drum magazines, flash suppressors and compulsory CCW will reduce the number of people who get shot. At least it is doing something, and at the end of the day Globey is the one living there who gets to participate in the experiment in real time.

Hey Globey.

Thank you for your service.

(Just in case)

I know you dont give a @#(! because you just want to be emotional and sarcastic and other gay @#(! like that, but the Founding Father's intended Americans to be armed with the same weaponry as the government. Cannons, rotary guns, weird 8 shot rifles, quad shot pistols, all sorts of goofy dumbass @#(! existed back then and they intended for Americans to be able to own these things if necessary to destroy the government if necessary or to defend themselves. This extended to armed boats, I've never heard of any sort of regulation from back then saying "Americans can't put guns on their ships," so it's not a far reach to extrapolate that same reasoning to arming your own vehicles, or even purchasing a tank. This is kind of impractical, but it was impractical for "killdozer" to be built, as well as it was impractical for it to be destroyed and the man inside killed.

I mean yeah you're just going to be retarded and be like OH SO WHAT NEXT WE SHOULD ARM EVERYONE WITH A NUKE AND TACTICAL CRUISE MISSILES and I'd have to be like, probably not, but there's an argument to be made that you'd rather not even bother with cuz reasons.

QUOTE (phoenix1 @ Dec 11 2016, 03:44 PM) Canadians are probably MORE violent than Americans, but you guys have hockey to let out your rage.

(P.S. most compelling evidence I've seen is relating homicide rates to the GINI coefficient. Poverty creates crime.)

oh hey you know what helps alleviate and cure poverty? A really good economy! One with jooooobs and opportuuuunities, one where you can start your ooooown buuuusiness easily.

You know what's never taken someone out of poverty? Socialism. In fact, socialism and communism and practices inspired by these ideologies (HURRRRRR FREE LUNCH!!!!), lead to MORE poverty, more government, more welfare state, more socialization, blah blah blah, OH @#(! China's Great Leap Forward caused millions in starvation and the USSR didn't do so hot neither with giving free things to it's people.

QUOTE (Papsmear @ Dec 11 2016, 10:39 AM) Statistics 2014:
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There are cities and states with very strict laws, and states and cities with less restrictions on firearms. Gun laws don't work if you can go somewhere else to get a gun legally. They also don't work if you can obtain them from another country. Either way, a lot of gun crimes are committed with illegally obtained fire arms. Sometimes it's something as simple as just taking a gun from someone they know.

Gun laws don't stop people from getting guns unless there's no way feasible way to bring them across boarders for the average person. All they do is make it harder for a citizen to defend themselves when they need to. Nobody thinks about gun laws when they have a home invader, or they're being assaulted, or someone is mugging them. "I wish I had a gun," is far more common than "I wish the gun laws worked."

People still commit violent crimes with or without guns. The UK goes so far as to require ID for purchasing silver ware.

QUOTE (Adept @ Jan 25 2017, 12:20 PM) Yup. Still confusing guns with freedom.

The right to own a gun is a freedom granted by the constitution. They're not two mutually exclusive concepts. Might as well say, "Hah, confusing California with San Fransisco." What??