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Raveen wrote:QUOTE (Raveen @ Aug 3 2015, 05:28 AM) I can't see MS deliberately antagonising corporate customers, they're the main consumers after all. Doing it accidentally, entirely plausible

windows 10 enterprise edition. control over updates and a stack of other stuff. Business won't be touching the commercial version

wow so much for bitlocker in the new os. "lets take everyone's security information and store it in a database somewhere" has never failed before!

Isn't this the sort of thing that Google and Apple do as a matter of course in their mobile OSs? Not that that makes it ok by any means of course, just a point that it seems to be the way of the world that tech companies want our data.

I think most large corporations have their internal computer system configured to keep the company secrets safe.

I can also imagine an (interim) manager who uses his private home computer to work at home. It might get worse with temp contractors or freelancers. They might simply buy a cheap W10 laptop, fire it up and start working on "future strategy analysis.docx".

Moving more and more to "the cloud" and M$ statements about how much they are willing to share with "the law" makes me frown too.

Yea, I know Google and Apple have similar ideas, but there was a choice to stay with a less privacy invading OS. Now M$ seem to have chosen the "grab my data" route too, there are less mainstream OS-es left. I do not see many "home" users move to - say - Linux Mint.

For me W10 in it's current state is an accident waiting to happen.

Psychosis wrote:QUOTE (Psychosis @ Aug 4 2015, 04:58 AM) windows 10 enterprise edition. control over updates and a stack of other stuff. Business won't be touching the commercial version

BTW, did you see point B of the new Microsoft Service Agreement, August 1st 2015?

QUOTE b. To the extent necessary to provide the Services to you and others, to protect you and the Services, and to improve Microsoft products and services,

you grant to Microsoft a worldwide and royalty-free intellectual property license to use Your Content

, for example, to make copies of, retain, transmit,

reformat

, display, and distribute via communication tools Your Content on the Services. If you publish Your Content in areas of the Service where it is available broadly online without restrictions,

Your Content may appear in demonstrations or materials that promote the Service

. Controls for how Microsoft personalizes advertising are available on the Security & privacy page of the Microsoft account management website. We do not use what you say in email, chat, video calls or voice mail, or your documents, photos or other personal files to target advertising to you. Our advertising policies are covered in detail in the Privacy Statements.[/quote]

Next computer will be a Linux box.I'll need a convertor to run Allegiance.

Psychosis wrote:QUOTE (Psychosis @ Aug 2 2015, 11:34 PM) not surprised, much risk


Is there a significant performance jump to warrant converting my perfectly good win7 pro build?

Nope, more likely to encounter the opposite.

Windows 10 is just a paintjob over Windows 8, including the Start Menu which is a hybrid between Windows 8 Tile Interface, and it's @#(!ty All Apps page. Multiple desktops are cool but just a gimmick, can use software on Win7/8 to get multiple desktops. Cortana doesn't work well at all, just a long workaround to essentially bing something which is also still worse then google.

There are some improvements in Windows 8 over Windows 7 but nothing unique which can't be replaced by some other software, Windows 7 is a better OS. Windows 8 is ok but really there is no reason to update to 10 from either of those.

HSharp wrote:QUOTE (HSharp @ Aug 7 2015, 12:56 PM) Nope, more likely to encounter the opposite.

Windows 10 is just a paintjob over Windows 8, including the Start Menu which is a hybrid between Windows 8 Tile Interface, and it's @#(!ty All Apps page. Multiple desktops are cool but just a gimmick, can use software on Win7/8 to get multiple desktops. Cortana doesn't work well at all, just a long workaround to essentially bing something which is also still worse then google.

There are some improvements in Windows 8 over Windows 7 but nothing unique which can't be replaced by some other software, Windows 7 is a better OS. Windows 8 is ok but really there is no reason to update to 10 from either of those.

Most Windows releases are mostly paint jobs.They made the transaction to 64 bit with 7.Adding support for things like USB 3.0 helps,but the rest is mostly paint job.

Update KB3081424 reboots half way through the install according to The Reg.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/11/wi..._pcs_kb3081424/

Did they fix it already?