I appreciate the situation in Germany though, if only the rest of the world also thought that war is A Bad Idea we'd all be much better off! Unfortunately it seems there will always be occasions when military use (or threat thereof) is required.
Veteran's Day
Sometimes in church I hear it said "love the sinner, hate the sin"... similarly, I think it is fair to disagree with a war but still respect those who died or fought in it.
I appreciate the situation in Germany though, if only the rest of the world also thought that war is A Bad Idea we'd all be much better off! Unfortunately it seems there will always be occasions when military use (or threat thereof) is required.
I appreciate the situation in Germany though, if only the rest of the world also thought that war is A Bad Idea we'd all be much better off! Unfortunately it seems there will always be occasions when military use (or threat thereof) is required.
spideycw - 'This is because Grav is a huge whining bitch. But we all knew that already' Dec 19 2010, 07:36 PM
Nations that have traditionally ruled out war is nearly any circumstance have always fallen. Not to say that warmongering nations have not also fallen under the weight of their own empire, however a happy balance must be maintained. A strong army full of men and women willing to die for their country and a leader who will not squander our military might on objectives with little to gain. I think Teddy summed it up nicely with "speak softly and carry a big stick."
I know this is late but i have the utmost respect for our veterans, regardless of what war they fought in, their bravery resonates throughout the public and their respect is well deserved. I, for one, could never muster the bravery that these fine men and women display every day.
I know this is late but i have the utmost respect for our veterans, regardless of what war they fought in, their bravery resonates throughout the public and their respect is well deserved. I, for one, could never muster the bravery that these fine men and women display every day.
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im sure grim that the german public got over it's ww2 veterans. oh and all the civilians that ignored the concentration camps
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WW2 France.Orion wrote:QUOTE (Orion @ Nov 13 2009, 07:01 PM) Do you have some examples?
War ruled out until they were invaded. Then lost.
Case solved. I will not be answering any further inquiries, thanks for asking!
But in all seriousness i forgot to add that they did not maintain a significant defensive force as well because they were peaceful.
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The Cherokee for one. You should be old enough to remember the Trail of Tears.Orion wrote:QUOTE (Orion @ Nov 13 2009, 11:01 PM) Do you have some examples?
I'm sure there are others if you care to dig a little.
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France is still around, and doesn't "traditionally rule out war" (ever heard of the hundred years war? Napoleon?)
Cherokee was not a "nation" at the time, there is a "Cherokee Nation" now, actually. Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Cherokee_War
Cherokee was not a "nation" at the time, there is a "Cherokee Nation" now, actually. Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Cherokee_War
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France is around at the grace of other nations. As of WW2, France, like most of the rest of Europe was war weary and ruled out war to the point that they got invaded instead of taking on Germany when they still were capable of it.Orion wrote:QUOTE (Orion @ Nov 13 2009, 08:13 PM) France is still around, and doesn't "traditionally rule out war" (ever heard of the hundred years war? Napoleon?)
Cherokee was not a "nation" at the time, there is a "Cherokee Nation" now, actually. Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Cherokee_War
Anyways did you not read my last line? I forgot a rather critical point that they don't also maintain a considerable defensive force. Or are Switzerland which represents no strategic advantage to hold and you would have to deal with the entire frigging population because they are all militia.
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You said traditionally rule out war, they set up rules with the DMZ after the Versailles treaty. Just because they got trounced doesn't mean they didn't try to defend themselves. If you want to blame someone for appeasement, you'll have to look further than just France, they were just a victim of proximity. If England had bordered Germany, they probably would have been crushed as well.
Traditionally being the 20 years after WWI, duh.Orion wrote:QUOTE (Orion @ Nov 13 2009, 08:36 PM) You said traditionally rule out war, they set up rules with the DMZ after the Versailles treaty. Just because they got trounced doesn't mean they didn't try to defend themselves. If you want to blame someone for appeasement, you'll have to look further than just France, they were just a victim of proximity. If England had bordered Germany, they probably would have been crushed as well.
Okay. How about Tibet?