Explosion at Boston marathon

SgtMajor · Post by **SgtMajor** » Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:57 pm

tsubaki_sanjuro wrote:QUOTE (tsubaki_sanjuro @ Apr 21 2013, 04:41 PM) yes but historical event XY happened which didnt have a manhunt even though it was nothing like this incident so therefore nazis

Wow, nice straw man

SgtMajor · Post by **SgtMajor** » Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:16 pm

In un-fallacy news

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...peak-again.html
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/04/21/leg...ombing-suspect/

Ok guise time to put on the tinfoil hats back on

raumvogel · Post by **raumvogel** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:48 am

Someone drops the ball, and the results are a police state.

MrChaos · Post by **MrChaos** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:03 am

If I ask a cop to come check under the bed for the crazy man then its a-ok
If a cop comes into my house against my wishes to check for the crazy man under the bed it is NOT a-ok.
If the government gives him the right to enter against my wishes it is even worse

My understanding is that the second was occurring, while I can understand to a certain degree, and not a good thing. If the reason was the third , as I said above, it is even worse.

Adept · Post by **Adept** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:30 pm

MrChaos wrote:QUOTE (MrChaos @ Apr 22 2013, 02:03 PM) If I ask a cop to come check under the bed for the crazy man then its a-ok
If a cop comes into my house against my wishes to check for the crazy man under the bed it is NOT a-ok.
If the government gives him the right to enter against my wishes it is even worse

And it's not like this was a Tom Clansy scenario where the suspect had a suitcase nuke. It seemed like a massive overreaction

raumvogel · Post by **raumvogel** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:31 pm

http://www.storyleak.com/video-shows-home-...-not-voluntary/

Terran · Post by **Terran** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:51 pm

Adept wrote:QUOTE (Adept @ Apr 22 2013, 09:30 AM) And it's not like this was a Tom Clansy scenario where the suspect had a suitcase nuke. It seemed like a massive overreaction

how about when you have a terrorist on the loose in your city, with a bunch of more explosives to be used for future events (like this one had), we'll let your cops not "overreact" and have them give up after a couple of hours of searching.

HJ_KG · Post by **HJ_KG** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:31 pm

takingarms1 · Post by **takingarms1** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:50 pm

raumvogel wrote:QUOTE (raumvogel @ Apr 22 2013, 09:31 AM) http://www.storyleak.com/video-shows-home-...-not-voluntary/

This sounds ugly if true. My impression was that these were voluntary searches. Also, you should know that police are allowed to search a home without a warrant if they are in hot pursuit of a dangerous fugitive. That probably covers most of the early searches.