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raumvogel wrote:QUOTE (raumvogel @ Apr 20 2013, 05:02 AM) I watched John Kerry on C-span tonight talking about how America's freedoms should be the worlds freedoms. This was right after martial law and homes being searched without warrants in his home state. Ironic.


How to get payed $25 per hour to get milk for someone.

no offense but americns are so dumb for thinking they are one of the few privileged countries where people enjoy "freedom"

most countries in the world have freedom. oppression is fairly rare these days. america should find something new to brag about

SgtMajor wrote:QUOTE (SgtMajor @ Apr 20 2013, 12:21 AM) Two kids detonated 2 @#(!ty made bombs made with pressure cookers, get into firefight with police, CITY WIDE LOCKDOWN MANHUNT (kill 3 people injure 100)
Terrorists detonate 1,310 bomb that could have taken down 2 towers if it was close enough to the pillars, throughout investigation (kill 6 injure 1042)

-"Yousef was assisted by Iraqi bomb maker Abdul Rahman Yasin, who helped assemble the complex 1,310-pound (590 kg) bomb, which was made of a urea nitrate main charge with aluminum, magnesium and ferric oxide particles surrounding the explosive. The charge used nitroglycerine, ammonium nitrate dynamite, smokeless powder and fuse as booster explosives.[16] Three tanks of bottled hydrogen were also placed in a circular configuration around the main charge, to enhance the fireball and afterburn of the solid metal particles"


By the way if you want to converse with me or discuss something please refrain to going back to the third person after someone calls you out on it.

agri will keep talking in the third person for as long as you fail to understand simple arguments. at the risk of repeating himself, here goes -

IN THE 93 WTC BOMBING THE SUSPECTS WERE KNOWN EARLY ON (THE FBI HAD AN INFORMANT IN THE GROUP), MOST OF THEM FLED THE COUNTRY AND SO DID NOT SHOOT AT OFFICERS TRYING TO ARREST THEM, NOR DID THEY RUN OFF INTO A BIG URBAN AREA.

this is why there was no manhunt. had they shot at cops and run off into some NY suburb then there might well have been a manhunt.


agri hopes this improves your understanding.

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I fend the notion that killing a police officer produces any special all out "copkiller manhunt", yet this is a meme that keeps poppin up. Violence towards any state olfficial on duty, or a peace officer automatically raises sentencing in the nordics, but there is no revenge manhunt mentality. Cops are employed to take the risks and trained to face violent situations. A death of a police officer in the line of duty is of course tragic, as any loss of life, bit loss of civilians is more so. The cop is armed, trained and can fight back.

It's always been a bit troubling to me to see this copkiller hunt thing.

tsubaki_sanjuro wrote:QUOTE (tsubaki_sanjuro @ Apr 20 2013, 07:31 AM) agri will keep talking in the third person for as long as you fail to understand simple arguments. at the risk of repeating himself, here goes -

IN THE 93 WTC BOMBING THE SUSPECTS WERE KNOWN EARLY ON (THE FBI HAD AN INFORMANT IN THE GROUP), MOST OF THEM FLED THE COUNTRY AND SO DID NOT SHOOT AT OFFICERS TRYING TO ARREST THEM, NOR DID THEY RUN OFF INTO A BIG URBAN AREA.

this is why there was no manhunt. had they shot at cops and run off into some NY suburb then there might well have been a manhunt.


agri hopes this improves your understanding.

The evidence was found tracking VIN from the van

"In the days after the bombing, investigators surveyed the damage and looked for clues. While combing through the rubble in the underground parking area, a bomb technician located some internal component fragments from the vehicle that delivered the bomb. A vehicle identification number (VIN), found on a piece from an axle, gave investigators crucial information that led them to a Ryder truck rental outlet in Jersey City. Investigators determined that the vehicle had been rented by Mohammad Salameh, one of Yousef's co-conspirators.[21] Salameh had reported the van stolen, and when he returned on March 4, 1993, to get his deposit back, authorities arrested him.[22]
Salameh's arrest led police to the apartment of Abdul Rahman Yasin in Jersey City, New Jersey, which Yasin was sharing with his mother, in the same building as Ramzi Yousef's apartment. Yasin was taken to the FBI's Newark field office in Newark, New Jersey, and was then released. The next day, he flew back to Iraq, via Amman, Jordan. Yasin was later indicted for the attack, and in 2001 he was placed on the initial list of the FBI Most Wanted Terrorists, on which he remains today. He disappeared before the U.S. coalition invasion, Operation Iraqi Freedom, in 2003. In March 1994, Salameh, Nidal Ayyad, Mahmud Abouhalima and Ahmad Ajaj were each convicted in the World Trade Center bombing. In May 1994, they were sentenced to life imprisonment.
The capture of Salameh and Yasin led authorities to Ramzi Yousef's apartment, where they found bomb-making materials and a business card from Mohammed Jamal Khalifa. Khalifa was arrested on December 14, 1994, and was deported to Jordan by the INS on May 5, 1995. He was acquitted by a Jordanian court and lived as a free man in Saudi Arabia until his death in 2007. In 2002, it was made public that Yasin, the only person involving in the bombing who was never caught by US authorities,[23] was being held as a prisoner on the outskirts of Baghdad, Iraq since 1994.[23] When journalist Leslie Stahl interviewed him there for a segment on 60 Minutes on May 23, 2002 [23] Yasin appeared in prison pajamas and handcuffs.[23] Yasin has not been heard from since the interview."





Counter argument?

How did it just double post?

Well I'll just use this space to talk, listen we have a due process of law, and these two were citizens, a private investigation, without putting their face all over the news and further escalating the situation with an invasion force of 30,000 police officers in full gear to hunt and $#@! yes I will say hunt, these two kids would have been the correct thing to do. The subservience of the population in Boston just made me so angry, but releasing their names before they were caught and stopping a city, putting FEAR into the population by making it that big of an event was wrong.

Aunt of marathon bomber calls into a radio show I'm not sure if this in fact the aunt or someone with a bad case of denial

MrChaos wrote:QUOTE (MrChaos @ Apr 21 2013, 03:17 AM) Aunt of marathon bomber calls into a radio show I'm not sure if this in fact the aunt or someone with a bad case of denial

It is the Aunt and here is the best reply to the article:

Victoria: "We all at some time in our lives have more than likely heard things about a family member we didn't want to believe, with the the amount of video tape coverage of the bombing that shows the nephews with back packs dropping them and running, the shoot out with the nephews, the nephews throwing bombs at the police chasing them, the one nephew wounded being run over by his brother during his escape, the 2nd nephew finally being found after the city of Boston went into a forced lock down, in which citizens were scared he may break into their homes, and the fact police found several unexploded IED's at the nephews home in Cambridge. What more proof does Auntie require?"

you people are talking crazy with this civil rights and manhunt crap. The situation was, there was a shootout where these @#$%@#s dropped bombs, shot at cops, and ran into a crowded city suburb. They shut down the city because the guy was at large, highly dangerous, and could have hurt someone. And, as soon as they thought he had slipped away, they were ready to call off the search.

This isn't a case of, lets lockdown boston to hunt some guys we think did bad things. This is a case of, omg there's a guy with a gun who is shooting people and throwing bombs, lets get everyone inside and get this @#$%@# off the streets.

Not only were people happy to oblige the lock down, there are stories of people asking cops to search their sheds/garages/etc to make sure the guy wasn't hiding in there.

TakingArms wrote:QUOTE (TakingArms @ Apr 21 2013, 11:31 PM) you people are talking crazy with this civil rights and manhunt crap. The situation was, there was a shootout where these @#$%@#s dropped bombs, shot at cops, and ran into a crowded city suburb. They shut down the city because the guy was at large, highly dangerous, and could have hurt someone. And, as soon as they thought he had slipped away, they were ready to call off the search.

This isn't a case of, lets lockdown boston to hunt some guys we think did bad things. This is a case of, omg there's a guy with a gun who is shooting people and throwing bombs, lets get everyone inside and get this @#$%@# off the streets.

Not only were people happy to oblige the lock down, there are stories of people asking cops to search their sheds/garages/etc to make sure the guy wasn't hiding in there.

yes but historical event XY happened which didnt have a manhunt even though it was nothing like this incident so therefore nazis