Interesting article are all US calls being recorded?

[Kopperhead]

What madpeople said and also, there's talk about that "Echelon" thing since a long time ago...

[fuzzylunkin1]

There are ways around it, though. Try encryption. It's cool.

[takingarms1]

I do question the reliability of the sources (an ex fbi agent? could just be some old guy trying to sensationalize) but the technology is there and it could be true.

Under the Patriot Act the US gov't is allowed to monitor calls that happen between people in the US and people overseas without a warrant. I disagree with it and think it's a violation of the US citizens rights. That being said, that alone could explain the need for a huge data center and could be what this guy in the original post was referring to.

[NightRychune]

given the number of telecommunication surveillance facilities that exist in the US now, it's extraordinarily likely that a very large number of domestic-only phone calls are recorded and saved every year

i mean, it's likely far too much data to be looked over and processed beyond cursory scannings for specific keywords, but it's probably saved somewhere

[Broodwich]

QUOTE (NightRychune @ May 6 2013, 11:31 AM) given the number of telecommunication surveillance facilities that exist in the US now, it's extraordinarily likely that a very large number of domestic-only phone calls are recorded and saved every year

i mean, it's likely far too much data to be looked over and processed beyond cursory scannings for specific keywords, but it's probably saved somewhere

This, really the only thing that protects anyone is anonymity. Squeaky wheel gets the grease. Remember that chick that duct taped her kids face? They went in and found her old google searches from like 5 years ago

[fuzzylunkin1]

https://www.torproject.org/

[germloucks]

If i were to think how i would design a system to do this kind of thing, i would use several pieces of software. One would build a profile on a database for each piece of information known to belong to a suspect. This would include normal stuff like assets, addresses, phone numbers, SSNs, Aliases etc. Everything we know about them. SQL works fine, and is extensible to this level. The database front end would interface with an aggregator. The aggregator's job is to sort through raw data output from the collection points, ideally this would happen real time. The aggregator would be smart enough pore over data such as phone calls, emails, cell phone text messages, and even blog posts... with the goal of matching unique bio/telemetric data, such as voice pitch and geo-tagging stuff already in place on many popular devices, with the person's profile on the database.

The end result would be a profile that builds over a period of time that starts to describe the average person's free time very well. You could do all sorts of interesting things with this information, maybe even a national REAL ID.

[SgtMajor]

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[takingarms1]

QUOTE (NightRychune @ May 6 2013, 02:31 PM) given the number of telecommunication surveillance facilities that exist in the US now, it's extraordinarily likely that a very large number of domestic-only phone calls are recorded and saved every year

i mean, it's likely far too much data to be looked over and processed beyond cursory scannings for specific keywords, but it's probably saved somewhere

It raises the possibility that all of this stuff is saved somewhere, and then they can get a warrant for it after the fact and look up dates/times/numbers when needed. As a practical matter, I think there's far too much data to record it all, especially every domestic call. The engineering required would be tremendous and I doubt you could hide a project of that magnitude. And frankly the government just isnt that good at anything. But I suppose if you're given to conspiracy theories, this one is at least plausible.

[germloucks]

QUOTE (TakingArms @ May 6 2013, 06:09 PM) And frankly the government just isnt that good at anything.

citation needed