COMMAND SCHOOL

Broodwich · Post by **Broodwich** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:04 am

Ahh, you know it is satisfying to me to see how far cashto has come this past year or two. Well done lad

Mastametz · Post by **Mastametz** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:12 am

TBH I wouldn't like to be in a command school led by someone who's led his squad to utter squad game failure for years.

There was also not the playerbase nor the interest to create a new squad in allegiance
oh hey, NI's doing very well

it just takes some balls

cashto's mind identifies problems, not solutions, and that's why he will always fail

MrChaos · Post by **MrChaos** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:04 am

ryujin · Post by **ryujin** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:17 am

cashto wrote:QUOTE (cashto @ Apr 3 2013, 07:05 PM) Ryu, the information you ask for is all right there in the wiki. Frankly, it's not rocket science. Anyone with two warm neurons to rub together could read it and, with a small amount of practice, learn to command a reasonable PUG.

The full PDF, as Dome mentioned, is not easy to find.

"The ACS pdf is publically available (although not widely advertised) here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2975104/ACS%20Mate...12-29.pdf"

It is also sarcastic, and organized poorly. I guess I'm volunteering to reorganize and expand it, as well as delete some of the sarcasm, and quotes (I'll keep the good info contained in the quotes though)

And i understand your concerns about the lack of motivation for people joining ACS, that is why I am wanting to push an easy to find and reference manual- so those that don't want to jump through ACS hoops over prolonged time have an easier time commanding.

And yes, the current one does cover a lot, but really:
"It is always good to have some skilled miner whores on your team. "
is about the worst commanding tip ever. of course it's good to have good people on your team. but it is stupid to put that in a commanding manual.

I heard drizzo was trying to put something like this together (maybe it was for flying), but never finished- if you have any of it left and don't mind sharing i'd appreciate it.

hopefully I come through and don't dissapoint

cashto · Post by **cashto** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:37 am

Ryujin wrote:QUOTE (Ryujin @ Apr 3 2013, 08:17 PM) It is also sarcastic, and organized poorly. I guess I'm volunteering to reorganize and expand it, as well as delete some of the sarcasm, and quotes (I'll keep the good info contained in the quotes though)

If you want to give it a shot, knock yourself out. Both Drizzo and Dome at various points last year wanted to give it a major update / overhaul, but it's clearly a major effort, and in the end neither one had time. That or managed to convince themselves it ultimately didn't matter.

I offer my services as a copyeditor if you need it. I am incapable of creating anything myself, but I love to correct the grammar and spelling of those who can.

Drizzo · Post by **Drizzo** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:16 am

You can't teach charisma.

Allegiance conceptually is the easiest RTS I've ever played. Knowing every facet of the game doesn't cut it, though. When I started rewriting ACS I realized that I was basically writing out a how-to: Allegiance. I had the intent of covering the game so comprehensively that ACS wouldn't just be a reference for commanding, it would pretty much be a reference for everyone.

That thinking was flawed. I'd pretty much generate 50 pages of content (instead I wrote a short story and got $150 bucks for it) and miss the crucial requirement. If you can't make people do what you want them to do, you're not going to win. Or you're going to win by the grace of someone that's not you.

Key example is Jimmy. Jimmy's probably forgotten @#(! about this game that even I haven't learned yet. Yet dude can't $#@!ing lead which is why he lost whenever he went up against someone who could.

If you really want what I have (2700 words) then I'll (maybe) get around to posting it on my dropbox. But you'll probably not finish it when you reach the same conclusion I did.

There's better you can do with your time.

cashto · Post by **cashto** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:21 am

I'd be interested in seeing it, in whatever form you've gotten it to.

Drizzo · Post by **Drizzo** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:27 am

Inbox

Spunkmeyer · Post by **Spunkmeyer** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:52 am

The trick is not to create a giant tome of information. That's what the wiki is for. The trick is to figure out what to leave out to have a guide people may actually read.

Do not bother with basics people should have picked up elsewhere. They don't need all factions pros & cons listed, for example - only those that would actually have an effect on how they command.

The ACS PDF already has enough material and generally has the right idea about the type of content needed - it's just too bloated. Fix the inaccuracies. Remove the speculation. Remove anything that's not concrete, verifiable information. Restructure to avoid repetition. Shape the map-specific advice into map-neutral advice. You should end up with a document almost one-third the size, then flesh it out as necessary.

Post by **pkk** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:26 am

Sheriff Metz wrote:QUOTE (Sheriff Metz @ Apr 4 2013, 01:29 AM) PKK won't do anything about it.

Why should I? There is a reason why there was a ZL system and why there is a Senate, so I (nor TE) don't have to deal with such @#(!.