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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:58 am
by Adept

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:51 am
by qqmwoarplox
im amused that all my posts here get deleted

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:58 am
by TheCorsair
Israel has every right to search this ship. Who knows what it is carrying?

It is funny however when you have Turkey forcing a Syrian plane to land with civilians aboard on a legal flight from Russia and the civil war being sponsored in Syria and yet all this sabre rattling about a ship purposely entering Israeli waters and it cannot be detained? instead it is called a "raid"!

So many double standards.

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:20 pm
by Vortrog
Do you do something worthwhile for your community Adept? If not, stop doing this @#(! and help out your fellow finns.
Coach an Ice hockey team or Cross Country team.

You spend too much time worrying about the rest of the world.

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:46 pm
by Adept
BREZHNEV wrote:QUOTE (BREZHNEV @ Oct 20 2012, 02:58 PM) Israel has every right to search this ship. Who knows what it is carrying?
What right is that? Boarding a ship in international waters, by the cover of night while blocking it's communications... if that fits your idea of legal and proper behaviour of a government then I'm not surprised of your current choice of avatar.

Oh, and let's add a DDOS attack on the ship-to-gaza site to the list. Musnt let the the world know what is being done, right. That would be so inconvenient.

QUOTE You spend too much time worrying about the rest of the world.[/quote]
Are you serious Vortrog? :huh: Because things are pretty ok for me, I should just ignore suffering and wrongdoings in the rest of the world? Also I should ignore an aid ship of scandinavian activists being illegally harassed? What a strange world view you have.

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:56 pm
by TheCorsair
I support the invasion of Finland so we can install a friendly government and arrest enemies of the people.

ok now we've cleared that up...

The flotilla organizers blatantly violate international law by trying to breach a legal maritime blockade. According to international and customary law, Israel has the legal right to impose a land and naval blockade on Hamas-controlled Gaza. Hamas is openly dedicated to Israel's destruction, has been in an ongoing state of armed conflict against Israel, and has fired over 10,000 rockets into Israeli civilian centers. Israel has the legal right and responsibility to protect its citizens by inspecting goods entering Gaza to prevent weapons from reaching Hamas.

The flotilla organizers intend to aid and support Hamas, which is designated a terrorist organization by members of the international community, including the U.S., Canada, Israel, the EU, Japan, and Jordan. Hamas' founding document calls for the murder of Jews, the obliteration of Israel, and Israel's replacement with an Islamist theocracy.

The flotilla organizers are trying to provoke a violent confrontation. If they were sincerely concerned about humanitarian aid for Gazans, they would deliver it through official Israeli entry points. Israel has repeatedly offered to deliver goods after officially inspecting them for weapons. The organizers have refused to comply. Instead, they hope their provocative, hostile breach of the blockade will compel Israel to use force and make Israel look like an aggressor.

Gazans are not facing a humanitarian emergency that justifies breaching the blockade. Humanitarian and consumer goods enter Gaza on a daily basis. UN officials repeatedly confirm that there is an ample supply of food and consumer goods. Israel only limits the entry of dual-purpose goods that could be used for weapons. International statistics indicate that Gazans have a higher standard of living than people in nearly all of Africa, including South Africa, as well as parts of Asia and the Middle East. In fact, Gaza faces a glut of goods, not a shortage of goods, according to recent press reports.

Hamas, not Israel, has caused the suffering of Palestinians in Gaza. Hamas has chosen war against Israel instead of peaceful coexistence. It has imposed a repressive, dictatorial, fundamentalist regime on Gaza residents and has murdered its political rivals.

Flotilla organizers claim to be "nonviolent" peace activists and "human rights" activists. They are not. They are members of extremist organizations that support terrorist groups and are dedicated to the destruction of Israel. The Free Gaza Movement is an affiliate of the International Solidarity Movement, which opposes the existence of the Jewish state. The IHH (Turkish Humanitarian Relief Foundation) is a Turkish Islamist organization with links to jihadist organizations in Bosnia, Syria, Iraq, Libya, and elsewhere.

If flotilla organizers really were peace and human rights activists, they would not go to Gaza but to Libya or Syria, where the brutal Assad regime has arrested, tortured, and murdered thousands of nonviolent, freedom-seeking demonstrators and has caused thousands of others to become refugees.

The flotilla organizers are violating, not upholding, one of the most fundamental human rights; a nation's right and responsibility to protect itself from enemies bent on murdering its citizens and destroying its state. "As a country, we will never tolerate our security being threatened, nor stand idly by when our people have been killed. We will be relentless in defense of our citizens." - U.S. President Barack Obama, May 1, 2011

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 1:09 pm
by raumvogel
I refer to my first post.


/ Ruskies for Israel!

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 1:32 pm
by qqmwoarplox
Antisemite mods

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:32 pm
by SgtMajor
See we just got done talking about the rightfulness of one nation to violate another's sovereignty in my PSCI class, does Palestine count as a sovereignty?

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:21 pm
by lexaal
People in GAZA need good beer and drink it. Then party on the streets instead of missiles in the sky.