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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:26 pm
by fwiffo
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... DRXT3pBVGc

you can use google to help you

1. type the keyword(s) you want at the top of one of the columns
2. select the cell that has the keyword, hold CTRL
3. use mouse and drag select a handful of rows below the keyword

i did a couple to show you how it works

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:43 pm
by mcr040rcm
Below are 2 reports showing keywords used for Eve Online and Allegiance. As you can see we have almost nothing useful coming from the generic keywords. I think the majority of players that do find us find us through sites that promote online games such as mpogd.com. We could use a good many of the keywords from eve as its similar gaming content to promote this game. What you need to reallize this is a hit or miss kind of thing, because if people come on at the lowest times when there are 0 players on, they probably won't even download, so if you get 100 hits a day but only 20 of those are during hours of highest volume in the game, and only 10% of total hits are people that actually want to play this game, you only get 2 people a day tryin it out. Factor in the percentage of attrition from the game, well you get the point.

Allegiance

Eve Online

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:34 am
by H4L_OMNI
Should have everything up by tmro night, thanks fw and mcr

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:03 am
by Mastametz
I have no opinion on this matter.

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:35 am
by Your_Persona

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:53 am
by Shizoku
Masta why wait for all those things to happen? If hal tosses some coin in and gets more players, it may encourage all those things.


active admins/mods, active server operators - maybe they'll become more active if more players play? Either that or we may attract new people to fill those roles. New players wont come without advertising.
we're losing vets due to inactive administration - Personally I have a number of reasons for not playing regularly, inactive administration isn't one of them, I strongly doubt many vets who leave would disagree with me on that topic. One of the main reasons we dont play is because games are small and that's because we need more new players. New players wont come without advertising.


everything needs to be fixed before we advertise - This has been the motto for years. Oh we can't advertise because R4 isn't ready...2years later R4 is released... oh we can't advertise till R5 is released.... more time passes, eventually it's released... oh we can't advertise till R6 is released, we really will push it hard then!... more years again R6 is released, oh we can't advertise yet ACSS isn't quite finished, only a couple more days! .... many years later ACSS will be released and you will find another flaw in our system that makes it difficult for new players to join and use that as a reason not to advertise the game.

Just go ahead with advertising, there will always be something that's not perfect with this game, MS released a mess of code and a buggy game and it attracted a pile of players and addicts. When 15-30 people play primetime together on a regular basis the old farts will come back and it will be fun, this will leak into late night which will in turn help euro hours which will help primetime. So advertise the @#(! out of it, don't wait, we've waited long enough, the game isn't going to get any more accessible and if it does, great it's a bonus.

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:01 am
by Mastametz
I have no opinion on this matter.

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:24 pm
by TurkeyXIII
To invalidate most of Masta's points because it's fun:
http://www.freeallegiance.org/forums/index...showtopic=67251

:cool:

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:39 pm
by H4L_OMNI
The ad is up and funded, let's how long it takes google to start showing it. I will be posting click rates by keyword and any other stats anyone would like to know or see. Just ask either here or in game. I've set 10 keywords to start and been downloading keywords and their cost per clicks from google, it's a lot of info but I've had experience before with tuning adwords to reach my target audience. I will be adding keywords, just don't want to add garbage.

And be nice to the noobs and spread the word to those who are not active on the forum to do the same in game.

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:22 pm
by Mastametz
I have no opinion on this matter.