We've got a Rambo

[Bacon_00]

Screw it, obviously you're a $#@!ing nutcase. I'm not even going to waste time arguing with somebody like you.

[NightRychune]

QUOTE (Bacon @ Feb 14 2013, 12:52 PM) Well I hope somebody you love gets killed by a murderous thug so I can tell you "people die, so what?"

You're such a badass, aren't you?

oh

so brood's point of "well people dying/getting shot is @#(!ty but necessary so people understand how $#@!ed up the LAPD is" is horrible and wrong

but you telling someone they hope someone they care about dies so you can make a point is an okay thing to say

[tsubaki_sanjuro]

QUOTE (Sheriff Metz @ Feb 14 2013, 07:44 PM) People die. So what?

you were the one upset because the po-po allegedly burned the man alive using your tax dollars

[tsubaki_sanjuro]

QUOTE (NightRychune @ Feb 14 2013, 08:07 PM) oh

so brood's point of "well people dying/getting shot is @#(!ty but necessary so people understand how $#@!ed up the LAPD is" is horrible and wrong

but you telling someone they hope someone they care about dies so you can make a point is an okay thing to say

it was masta, but yes broods point was bollocks as well.

[Broodwich]

How much harm does the LAPD do on a normal basis that goes unmentioned by mainstream media? The longer something like this goes on for, the more likely it is that some meaningful change will be done for the betterment of everyone. The suspect wasnt out shooting random people, the cops were. The suspect killed some people who had nothing to do with him getting fired for no reason, which is terrible, but not just shooting random people. Notice how much protection the cops gave each other when issued a death threat. I wonder how many poor members of the black or latino population would get the same treatment?

"How can you blame them, given the situation?" American soldiers get crucified for (well got, i suppose everyone is used to it now) accidentally killing civilians in a hostile country where half the people want to murder them. Yet here one guy says hes going to kill cops and these guys go around shooting up old ladies at the drop of a hat. At least soldiers usually operate under "dont fire unless fired upon", but cops dont? I hope you are a bit more restrained if you ever have to draw your gun on another human being, and not spray umpteen shots into a vehicle that sorta resembles a suspect's in a crowded neighborhood.

The police's job is to "serve and protect" civilians and the innocent first, themselves last. That is what I hold them to

[Mastametz]

QUOTE (tsubaki_sanjuro @ Feb 14 2013, 12:07 PM) you were the one upset because the po-po allegedly burned the man alive using your tax dollars

The point is that the police force is NOT supposed to act like egotistical, vengeful, gangbanging morons, which is the whole point of having a police force vs just letting street justice run its own course.

Plus street justice is bad because... innocent bystanders and civilians get caught up in the crossfire, right?
But here the LAPD is doing the same @#(!, and publicly lying to cover their asses, and not long after the whole thing came out about Fullerton where the cops beat this loony bum to death in the street, which everyone lied about to cover up as well.

If they act like gangbangers, they should be treated like them. Let them get killed/throw their asses in prison.

They get paid (and as much as they do) to be held to a higher standard. To be honest, make good decisions under pressure, etc. Not to be $#@!ing children.

It's due time for them to be held accountable.
Maybe if more of them die, people won't take on that job so lightly if they aren't prepared for what it entails.



@Bacon

Death is not innately bad or good. Death is not a tragedy. People who are dead do not suffer. Quit making yourself think you care about someone you've never met and are not networked with in any way. People mourn because they are sad for THEMSELVES, it is a selfish thing, you're not mourning because you feel bad for the dead - THEY'RE DEAD. they feel nothing. they are at peace. Countless people die every day and you don't give a second though to it, it's only until it shows up in the media and the media tells you that you're supposed to feel bad for the death of someone you've never known.

stop being a tool.

[djrbk]

I read on one of the news reports that he was fired for filing a report on his training officer for using excessive/brutal force in the arrest a schizophrenic/delusional person, to which the station response was one of "No, you're lying - so here's your pink slip for lying/slander/libel"... Then after a 2 years of trying to appeal this legally he goes berserk and on a little killing spree.

Not that I think he was justified in his actions - I think he was probably telling the truth about the beat-down, and he got fired for trying to do something about it... Then went crazy after poor/stressful living environments after the fact.

... Also speaking of the news reports - they keep calling him a Cop Killer - but he has killed no cops. Civilians associated with cops yeah, but there's some poor journalism with respect to that.

[Bacon_00]

QUOTE (Broodwich @ Feb 14 2013, 01:06 PM) How much harm does the LAPD do on a normal basis that goes unmentioned by mainstream media? The longer something like this goes on for, the more likely it is that some meaningful change will be done for the betterment of everyone. The suspect wasnt out shooting random people, the cops were. The suspect killed some people who had nothing to do with him getting fired for no reason, which is terrible, but not just shooting random people. Notice how much protection the cops gave each other when issued a death threat. I wonder how many poor members of the black or latino population would get the same treatment?

"How can you blame them, given the situation?" American soldiers get crucified for (well got, i suppose everyone is used to it now) accidentally killing civilians in a hostile country where half the people want to murder them. Yet here one guy says hes going to kill cops and these guys go around shooting up old ladies at the drop of a hat. At least soldiers usually operate under "dont fire unless fired upon", but cops dont? I hope you are a bit more restrained if you ever have to draw your gun on another human being, and not spray umpteen shots into a vehicle that sorta resembles a suspect's in a crowded neighborhood.

The police's job is to "serve and protect" civilians and the innocent first, themselves last. That is what I hold them to

And how much crime do you think that they prevent that the media doesn't report? That argument is so flawed I don't even know where to begin. You're just making @#(! up, in essence.

I say that we let the LAPD leave LA for a month. Just totally up and leave, no police work will happen in the city for a month. If they're such a flawed organization causing so much harm, then obviously you would agree that this would be in everybody's best interest. In reality I wouldn't want this to happen because the city would descend into murderous chaos, but I'd love to see a simulation of it.

Sheff, you need to go get some help bud. If you truly don't believe that it's wrong for innocent people and cops to die at the hand of a murderer, then you're not a functional member of society and are likely a psychopath (in the medical sense). And no, I don't actually hope that a loved one of yours dies just to prove my point. I said that in attempts to make you join the real world. Probs didn't work in the slightest, though, I'm guessing.

IMO you're probably just trolling, but comments like that and Brood's cold-hearted take on the matter disturb me. It scares me that there are people like you out there who actually believe this horse@#(! you're spewing. This Dorner idiot has gotten way too much support from the rats infesting the internet. It bugs me and makes me a little worried about our society.

[Bacon_00]

QUOTE (djrbk @ Feb 14 2013, 02:27 PM) I read on one of the news reports that he was fired for filing a report on his training officer for using excessive/brutal force in the arrest a schizophrenic/delusional person, to which the station response was one of "No, you're lying - so here's your pink slip for lying/slander/libel"... Then after a 2 years of trying to appeal this legally he goes berserk and on a little killing spree.

Not that I think he was justified in his actions - I think he was probably telling the truth about the beat-down, and he got fired for trying to do something about it... Then went crazy after poor/stressful living environments after the fact.

... Also speaking of the news reports - they keep calling him a Cop Killer - but he has killed no cops. Civilians associated with cops yeah, but there's some poor journalism with respect to that.

Except for, you know, the deputy sheriff he killed.

[Broodwich]

Please point me to where I say we are better off without police