germloucks wrote:QUOTE (germloucks @ Dec 15 2012, 11:48 PM) Right, guns dont equal freedom; however, gun control doesnt equal crime control either.
You're right. Less guns = less people getting shot is the thing I focus on. Violent crime is a question of social safetynets, employment, decent schools... and a matter for the police rather than for armed citizens.
As long as the police force is held strictly accountabe and under public scrutiny I'm perfectly happy with this arrangement.
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Adept wrote:QUOTE (Adept @ Dec 15 2012, 03:07 PM) As long as the police force is held strictly accountabe and under public scrutiny I'm perfectly happy with this arrangement.
It's not. The police force in general is incredibly corrupt. Whenever they do wrong they sweep it under the rug. and until very recently (last couple months) it's been illegal in some states to make a video recording of police so they can be held accountable for anything.
And another major reason why Americans don't won't surrender their guns. The police do a lousy job of protecting anyone. They can't even protect us from themselves.
Owning a firearm is legal here. People still shoot and the rifle clubs still are full on weekends. We still have. Shootings but not mass shooting. If the uss sshould change anything, its stricter control on automatic longarms and pistols. Autoloading magnifies the problem and wackjobs don't find bolt action firearms cool for being $#@!tards
Firearms training should be mandated for everyone in the US. At least that way when someone wants to shoot someone they don't end up killing like 15 others on accident.
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