The great debate

turtlefist · Post by **turtlefist** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:13 am

You should bring back Pegasus the pig and his running mate Ficus the plant .

Archangelus · Post by **Archangelus** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:16 am

Dilma Rousseff

germloucks · Post by **germloucks** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:19 am

Politics has evolved (or, more accurately, DE-volved) into mind games. While both parties mainly agree on what needs to happen on most major issues, you cant imagine that is the case from watching the news.

You get these chiseled faces with big perfect smiles promising that everything is going to be fixed if we just mark their name down on the ballot. Its BS, of course, and most rational people realize that.

Rational people, evidently, make up the swing vote.

TheAlaskan · Post by **TheAlaskan** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:49 pm

This point may already have been made, but at this point, who can possibly still be undecided?

Haven't we already figured out where each candidate stands by now?

HJ_KG · Post by **HJ_KG** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:08 pm

madpeople · Post by **madpeople** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:00 pm

I'll just leave this here http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/z1c9..._united_states/

SgtMajor · Post by **SgtMajor** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:45 pm

What's with you virgins and Reddit lol

Camaro · Post by **Camaro** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:22 am

Adept wrote:QUOTE (Adept @ Aug 17 2012, 09:30 PM) I must say I'm rather astonished by the brazen work of attempting to distort the popular vote by the Republican party representatives and officials. The nonexistent voter-fraud photo-ID business, changing voting times based on whether the district is republican or democratic dominated.... simply amazing.

Oh the Democratic party is also pretty bad about that stuff. Basically both sides are guilty of it.

raumvogel wrote:QUOTE (raumvogel @ Aug 28 2012, 11:33 AM) We need to get all of the big $$ out of politics. Unfortunately, when ever someone tries to do that, they are shot down by big$$.

We need to get the big $$ out of our governmental economic concerns first. Following that, big $$ will have a lesser role in things.

Conversely, this makes it so that the poorer people have less of a stake in things since government won't be giving them a handout either.

Can't have one without the other.

Given the corruption evidenced within the RNC's leadership, I have decided without doubt that I will be voting Libertarian. Gary Johnson is slightly more Libertarian than Paul, so why not.

Adept · Post by **Adept** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:05 pm

Camaro wrote:QUOTE (Camaro @ Aug 30 2012, 04:22 AM) Oh the Democratic party is also pretty bad about that stuff. Basically both sides are guilty of it.

I'm sorry but that sounds like apologism. Show me some links to such attempts to disenfranchise republican voters Camaro, I'm quite interested. But! And this is a big but, even if you can show some, it doesn't excuse what the republicans were doing by one iota.

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I've been watching the coverage coming form Tampa, and I'm thoroughly disgusted. How can you guys run a country when 50% of the political space is taken by a party that is all about naked selfishness and defending the privilege of the rich and powerful... and how the $#@! is that party managing to portray itself as the guardian of christian values? Are your christians in general a horribly selfish and intolerant bunch? I'm no fan of religion, but I can't see how the republican party message, and the teachings of Jesus fit together in any way

CronoDroid · Post by **CronoDroid** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:49 pm

Camaro wrote:QUOTE (Camaro @ Aug 29 2012, 06:22 PM) Given the corruption evidenced within the RNC's leadership, I have decided without doubt that I will be voting Libertarian. Gary Johnson is slightly more Libertarian than Paul, so why not.

Good! I wish more libertarians or would-be libertarians actually voted for the proper party, not just the one that preaches semi-libertarian views while also getting unnecessarily involved in people's business.

I've read a lot of stuff on the internet in the last few days that appears to suggest a lot of libertarians are either actually voting Libertarian or Democratic this election due to what the GOP has been doing, and while I disagree with changing your vote based on non-policy actions, I hope a third party will get a strong showing in this election just to shake things up a bit.

As for the Voter ID thing, while I can understand the rationale behind it both from sides, the Republicans are quite obviously only pushing the issue to limit votes for the other party, and the Democrats only care about it because it shrinks the amount of people who will actually vote for them. In reality, voter fraud is almost non-existent. I mean think about it, it's already an effort and a half to actually get citizens to go vote. It's shady on both sides. But I don't think they show implement stronger voter ID laws.