Autoban on newbie server

Host Malachi · Post by **Host Malachi** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:02 am

Yeah. So if "newbie" is in game title and people don't notice it before starting game then we get a lot of banned players...

I don't really see the logic in this as we already have dedicated newbie servers and a game setting option for novice only, but since it is a rule that I find somewhat entertaining I'm not too concerned. But I'm still left with a few questions on how the auto-ban system actually works:

a) It never seems to ban every non-novice who plays in the game. From the few times I've seen it enforced it's always banned 7 of at least 10 (usually more) non-novice players.
b) It always bans everyone at once (or very close together) after a seemingly random amount of time. This is troublesome because it has the potential to completely unbalance teams if the soon-to-be-banned tend to favor one side of the next game in main.
c) The amount of time each ban is supposed to last seems random, but not really. It hasn't been a problem since usually someone else complains and the bans are removed anyways, but I've noticed that the ban is consistently longer for me. Like I said, they get removed, but sometimes I am amazed to see everyone walking away with 1 or 2 hour bans and getting a solid 100 myself.

Anyways if we are set on keeping this somewhat unknown rule then maybe it would be a good idea that the word 'main' in game title counteracts its auto-ban potential.

Post by **FreeBeer** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:17 am

A while back it was fairly common for people to launch a game, put "newbie" in the title to bait new folks into the game, then whore on them mercilessly. It happened often enough, and was complained about often enough that it was decided to implement the "Newbie" rule.

a) Everyone I've seen that has violated the rules has generally been banned. Those who weren't may not have been in the game long enough to violate the rule.
b) Once the game ends, TAG posts the game to our stats server which then does its end-game work which would include checking for bannable offenses.
c) Ban times are a function of your history. There's a multiplier effect. The more you get banned, the longer each subsequent ban.

Cable · Post by **Cable** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:22 am

Like I said...

I didnt realize this was how it worked.. I knew being on the newbie server would get you banned... I did not realize the NAME NEWBIE IN THE TITLE was what tripped the trigger..

Okay... since you cant fix it I thought you were just being a jerk... thanks for the explaiation...

Post by **FreeBeer** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:24 am

Cable, I've already stated clearly and unequivocally than I do not have the power to reverse it or I would. What part of that do you not understand?

Host Malachi · Post by **Host Malachi** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:36 am

That makes more sense. I've had a lot of 0min afk bans in the past.

Thanks for the explanation.

Post by **FreeBeer** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:41 am

FYI, 0 minute AFK bans aren't calculated into that. Those are considered "zero rated" for the purposes of calculating ban times.

notjarvis · Post by **notjarvis** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:07 am

Contact BV. Explain the situation. He may reverse it (he has done so in the past with misunderstandings)

_SRM_Nuke · Post by **_SRM_Nuke** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:48 am

QUOTE 11/11/2010 19:35:22 3 days, 18 hours, 53 minutes. Host_Malachi BlackViper SR#06: Veteran on Newbie Server (ASGS Autoban)
11/12/2010 00:30:19 3 hours, 48 minutes. sajuuk_khar BlackViper SR#06: Veteran on Newbie Server (ASGS Autoban)
11/12/2010 04:38:33 2 hours, 56 minutes. Triumph BlackViper SR#06: Veteran on Newbie Server (ASGS Autoban)
11/11/2010 19:35:13 2 hours, 0 minutes. Jules BlackViper SR#06: Veteran on Newbie Server (ASGS Autoban)
11/11/2010 20:01:17 0 minutes. xJammer BlackViper SR#06: Veteran on Newbie Server (ASGS Autoban)
11/11/2010 19:37:46 0 minutes. DrJ BlackViper SR#06: Veteran on Newbie Server (ASGS Autoban)
11/11/2010 19:35:46 0 minutes. BabelFish BlackViper SR#06: Veteran on Newbie Server (ASGS Autoban)[/quote]lol @ the number of "vets" who were stupid enough to join.

Zruty · Post by **Zruty** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:08 am

_SRM_Nuke wrote:QUOTE (_SRM_Nuke @ Nov 12 2010, 12:48 PM) lol @ the number of "vets" who were stupid enough to join.

I think they may have joned before the server name was changed to newbie.

_SRM_Nuke · Post by **_SRM_Nuke** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:21 am

Zruty wrote:QUOTE (Zruty @ Nov 12 2010, 05:08 AM) I think they may have joned before the server name was changed to newbie.

Cable was being stupid. And with the auto-AFK you can't just change settings and launch. So there is really no excuse for rank 15+ vets to not notice the change. Its been this way for YEARS.