Booting useless players

[Dome]

QUOTE (LANS @ Oct 12 2010, 10:03 PM) If I were like the rest of you, this topic would be in size 7 red text in rants. I also wouldn't be spending time making videos for AFS, or telling my RealLife friends about alleg.

wat

I think Spidey was talking to brood there. Also this is worse than a rant because youre seriously asking who you should boot... and are taking offense to something not directed at you.

[refill]

Boot the first XT'er on your list.

[Broodwich]

lol spidey
lans i was referring to the proactive booting, then you wouldnt have the problem. Dont be afraid to shank every mother$#@!er on your team because they arent listening, but at the same time dont just punt everyone who disagrees with you. If i were in your shoes i would say something vulgar and just pick someone or a few someones i dont like and boot them, and repeat the order. Continue doing this until you have no team or people start listening

[fwiffo]

i was in that game, i kept asking him to boot folks and he was confused about who to boot. as a new commander its natural not to be able to tell who the useless folks are, esp if you are on the bomb run busy nanning, etc. also it being a small game, i understand that if you boot, you would effectively cut your team by a sizable amount. then again, if they arent being productive on your team, it's not much of a loss to boot them right?

my main beef is with voobs who CAN read chat but insist on ignoring orders anyway. in this instance, one voob camped an op that we were "pretending" to bomb w/ his int. this action caused 2 other newbies to camp the same op with him... effectively half our team was camping the op for no reason as we were just gonna rip out and bomb their garr uneyed instead.

boot these folks by all means. when they get booted, they know what they did wrong, if they cant care to play to win, they dont deserve to be on your team.

[Jimen]

It doesn't really matter WHO you boot. The act of booting somebody is the ingame equivalent of putting both bold and italics around your orders - a clear sign in every language that that yes, you do expect people to follow your orders, you are pissed off that they're not listening to you, and you're not afraid to drive the point home by banishing every $#@!er who dares think he's too good to listen to the comm. If you've got multiple offenders, just boot one or two and watch the rest suddenly start paying attention.

Just use common sense: don't boot the guys who are doing the right thing, don't boot the guys who are smarter than you and most likely know what the hell they're doing, don't boot people with newbie protection, and don't waste your boots on people who're still figuring out the fine details and just need a little extra help.

[MrChaos]

Honestly you should know who is on the potential boot list from all the other games you played with them. Oh sometimes it late, their drunk, and need motivation via shoe leather but usually those that play competitively do so ALWAYS... until you show it won't be competitive via your commanding. Growling works too. You have to establish your growl by booting people but once the peanut gallery knows you won't $#@! about welp they'll listen. AND / OR you do it via respect that you have a clue. Do this by bringing your A game when not in the hot seat and do the high profile stuff.The booting tends to be a shortcut to the respect thing but like all choices you WILL make enemies and suffer for your mistakes. Be prepared since you are just now emerging within the community as a whole.

Another thing, "whole team is flying in circles" is a weak cliche used way to often, and often shows the impatience of the commander. Everyone get home and nan now has a different timeline dependent on that game. The int who was fake camping the OP, who was not a new player, *boot*. Repeat the command for the new players again, give them two minutes to redock in chat. In the mean time make sure everyone else is responding, go grab a frosty beverage, comeback, and organize the run.

Being a daisy fresh new commander to most means you don't generally get much if any cooperation slack, plan accordingly, including who you command against. Once you are the king of the small game choose your first five or six games on main very wisely. Plan that most players will be watching you like a hawk, won't listen even to the current level of PU games, and this is when you'll make your rep for the next fifty games. Fair? Idk but thems the facts Jack!

Finally it wa almost a trainwreck of a thread, Im really glad it didn't happen. Piece of advice LANS, unasked, and well not all flowery. You're just now reaching your vet/voob cocooning stage (believe it or not) and this is an important time for you. You've already made the mistakes of: complaining about AS, hiding behind your squad tag, and showed your "pull me to troll" chord. Now one grabbed it this time because it was evident you are sincere.

Enjpy the game. Relax bud. Enjoy the game. Play to win. Enjoy the game. Be yourself. Enjoy the game. The other @#(! all works out.

MrChaos(9)

[SouthPaw]

1) You boot someone who is good enough to know better.

2) You boot someone not doing something that could be vaguely considered as more important than what you are asking (about to kill/save a miner).

3) You boot someone who you have specifically told to get a bomber, or nan and who has ignored you.

Two out of three of the above criteria ought to be about right.

Option b is to type #resign, that usually wakes folks up.

[Solamnus]

if you cant make the whole team listen. give specific orders to everyone like x get a bbr, y and z get ints and rest nan if anyone disobeys just boot them. Some may return and complain and blame you for not understanding @#(! about anything just tell them to $#@! OFF! and continue what you are doing.

[Gandalf2]

QUOTE (SouthPaw @ Oct 13 2010, 12:24 PM) Option b is to type #resign, that usually wakes folks up.

I like this sometimes, it's a vote of no confidence in the team, either they will go "yeah we suck" and press Y, or, as in this situation, they may realise they are in a good position & need to make the most of it.

[spideycw]

QUOTE (Dome @ Oct 13 2010, 01:11 AM) wat

I think Spidey was talking to brood there. Also this is worse than a rant because youre seriously asking who you should boot... and are taking offense to something not directed at you.

if you were like the rest of us you would be able to read and figure out who I am talking too